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Sounds great, but let's be realistic here: it's the N years of consultancy that allow this fantastic lifestyle, because it is the network built then that is bei

Sounds great, but let's be realistic here: it's the N years of consultancy that allow this fantastic lifestyle, because it is the network built then that is being leveraged now. In other words, as fantastic as this lifestyle sounds (and it really does sound fantastic!) it's not something you can just jump into.

AznHisoka 14y ago
Yep. He calls coding for other ppl "whoring".. but he seems to forget that people pay you to do EXACTLY what others won't or can't do. If other people enjoy it as much as they enjoy sex, you wouldn't get paid a ton
- peteforde 14y ago
  If you enjoy coding for other people as much as you enjoy coding your own projects, then we are wired very differently - and that's just fine. However, I have found that many of the things I used to think everyone could do are in fact skills that I now get paid to use because they can't do them. Go figure.
  - shawn-butler 14y ago
    What can you tell me about the "agent". Are you paying him or her or is it a commission basis? How did you find someone you could trust?
    - peteforde 14y ago
      Ted Pearlman (http://usistwo.com/ http://usistwo.com/) approached me, and I listened because he had an interesting opportunity that was relevant to my interests. He was also referred directly by Hampton Catlin, who I used to run a company with. After jumping on Skype with Ted, it was clear that we would be friends. I'd prefer to let Ted discuss how he is paid, but I will point you to his Pudding Manifesto: http://puddingmanifesto.org/ http://puddingmanifesto.org/
- shawn-butler 14y ago
  This is pretty simplistic view of labor and significantly ignores many of the reasons companies seek contract labor or outsource projects for development. The first thing you learn in microISV is that you need to determine as quickly as possible what is the actual, underlying cause a client (that is not a friend or foaf) is seeking your services. It has been my experience that it is rarely or never "we need some coders because we can't hire any."
peteforde 14y ago
I think we agree! I state rather explicitly that it took me 15 years of hard work and network building to find myself here. However, I cannot rest on my laurels and for the record I'm just getting started.

AznHisoka 14y ago

Yep. He calls coding for other ppl "whoring".. but he seems to forget that people pay you to do EXACTLY what others won't or can't do. If other people enjoy it as much as they enjoy sex, you wouldn't get paid a ton

peteforde 14y ago
If you enjoy coding for other people as much as you enjoy coding your own projects, then we are wired very differently - and that's just fine. However, I have found that many of the things I used to think everyone could do are in fact skills that I now get paid to use because they can't do them. Go figure.
- shawn-butler 14y ago
  What can you tell me about the "agent". Are you paying him or her or is it a commission basis? How did you find someone you could trust?
  - peteforde 14y ago
    Ted Pearlman (http://usistwo.com/ http://usistwo.com/) approached me, and I listened because he had an interesting opportunity that was relevant to my interests. He was also referred directly by Hampton Catlin, who I used to run a company with. After jumping on Skype with Ted, it was clear that we would be friends. I'd prefer to let Ted discuss how he is paid, but I will point you to his Pudding Manifesto: http://puddingmanifesto.org/ http://puddingmanifesto.org/
shawn-butler 14y ago
This is pretty simplistic view of labor and significantly ignores many of the reasons companies seek contract labor or outsource projects for development. The first thing you learn in microISV is that you need to determine as quickly as possible what is the actual, underlying cause a client (that is not a friend or foaf) is seeking your services. It has been my experience that it is rarely or never "we need some coders because we can't hire any."

peteforde 14y ago

I think we agree! I state rather explicitly that it took me 15 years of hard work and network building to find myself here. However, I cannot rest on my laurels and for the record I'm just getting started.