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Wikileaks.de domain owner raided

59 points by chris11 18y ago

mahmud 18y ago
Yes, and according to the article, he runs a Tor exit node.
- chris11 18y ago
  According to the article, only wikileaks was mentioned during the raid, police asked for passwords to the wikileaks.de domain, and police asked him to shut wikileaks.de down. So while there isn't much information available right now, the raid looks like it does not have to do with him running a Tor exit node.
  - jskopek 18y ago
    I think it's based on a pervious article on HN a couple days back in which the author talked about how running a Tor exit node can get you arrested for downloading child porn. Nerd humor
c1sc0 18y ago
I'm in Germany right now and this whole hysteria is sickening. Don't let your freedom be taken away 'for the children'; your children will come back to haunt you for it. Wikileaks just made themselves a nice donation today.
- spoiledtechie 18y ago
  Can you please explain a bit more about the hysteria thats happening or point us to links? I don't know whats going on in Germany right now....
  - ntyntyesr 18y ago
    wikileaks published the lists of banned sites used by Australia and other countries web censorship. Germany and other Eu countries are doing the same. These lists allegedly contain sites with child porn so listing the sites is the same as distributing child porn. Of course since the list is secret, if the government was to slip a few other sites on the list - you wouldn't know except for wikileaks.
    - spoiledtechie 18y ago
      Thanks. Interesting.
    - chris11 18y ago
      Yeah, a lot of sites got slipped in. There are gambling sites, porn sites other than child porn sites, fringe religious websites (like a satanist website and some Christian websites), youtube links, and even a dentist's website. And there are plans to expand the list.
lucumo 18y ago
I found this particularly interesting: "It comes just a few weeks after a member of parliament, SPD minister Joerg Tauss had his office and private house searched by police. German bloggers discussing the subject were similarly raided." So, if you discuss something on your blog, your house gets raided?
- spyrosk 18y ago
  An even worse case occured here in Greece, where the owner of a rss news aggregator site was sued and forced to shut down his site, got all of his electronic equipment confiscated, arrested and as far as I can recall had to pay a fine, let alone having to spend a night in jail. The reason for all that was that in one blog, related to the site only through the blog's rss feed, made a post with libelous remarks towards (according to) the plaintiff. The greek authorities (or the plaintiff, I am not sure who first took this approach) couldn't prosecute the blogger because he used a US hosted blog service, and thus could not be identified. So the solution was to sue the owner of the news aggregator, which had a greek domain name.
vaksel 18y ago
why are governments so afraid of whistle blowers? What kind of shit are they doing and getting away with?
- thaumaturgy 18y ago
  It's not a matter of what they're getting away with now. It's about what they want to get away with.

59 points by chris11 18y ago

mahmud 18y ago

Yes, and according to the article, he runs a Tor exit node.

chris11 18y ago
According to the article, only wikileaks was mentioned during the raid, police asked for passwords to the wikileaks.de domain, and police asked him to shut wikileaks.de down. So while there isn't much information available right now, the raid looks like it does not have to do with him running a Tor exit node.
- jskopek 18y ago
  I think it's based on a pervious article on HN a couple days back in which the author talked about how running a Tor exit node can get you arrested for downloading child porn. Nerd humor

c1sc0 18y ago

I'm in Germany right now and this whole hysteria is sickening. Don't let your freedom be taken away 'for the children'; your children will come back to haunt you for it. Wikileaks just made themselves a nice donation today.

spoiledtechie 18y ago
Can you please explain a bit more about the hysteria thats happening or point us to links? I don't know whats going on in Germany right now....
- ntyntyesr 18y ago
  wikileaks published the lists of banned sites used by Australia and other countries web censorship. Germany and other Eu countries are doing the same. These lists allegedly contain sites with child porn so listing the sites is the same as distributing child porn. Of course since the list is secret, if the government was to slip a few other sites on the list - you wouldn't know except for wikileaks.
  - spoiledtechie 18y ago
    Thanks. Interesting.
  - chris11 18y ago
    Yeah, a lot of sites got slipped in. There are gambling sites, porn sites other than child porn sites, fringe religious websites (like a satanist website and some Christian websites), youtube links, and even a dentist's website. And there are plans to expand the list.

lucumo 18y ago

I found this particularly interesting: "It comes just a few weeks after a member of parliament, SPD minister Joerg Tauss had his office and private house searched by police. German bloggers discussing the subject were similarly raided." So, if you discuss something on your blog, your house gets raided?

spyrosk 18y ago
An even worse case occured here in Greece, where the owner of a rss news aggregator site was sued and forced to shut down his site, got all of his electronic equipment confiscated, arrested and as far as I can recall had to pay a fine, let alone having to spend a night in jail. The reason for all that was that in one blog, related to the site only through the blog's rss feed, made a post with libelous remarks towards (according to) the plaintiff. The greek authorities (or the plaintiff, I am not sure who first took this approach) couldn't prosecute the blogger because he used a US hosted blog service, and thus could not be identified. So the solution was to sue the owner of the news aggregator, which had a greek domain name.

vaksel 18y ago

why are governments so afraid of whistle blowers? What kind of shit are they doing and getting away with?

thaumaturgy 18y ago
It's not a matter of what they're getting away with now. It's about what they want to get away with.