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Yeah, somewhat like this craziness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment#List_of_camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_intern

Yeah, somewhat like this craziness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment#List_of_camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment#Li...

sigzero 14y ago
Not even close. Though what we did was certainly bad enough.
cafard 14y ago
That was bad enough, and it is yet more depressing to know that Hitler got some of his ideas from the US reservation system. Yet to compare the internment of Japanese Americans to the wholesale murder of Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs is a reaching.
- krapp 14y ago
  And our fascination with eugenics, apparently.
  - illuminate 14y ago
    Which didn't end until what, thirty-ish years after the end of WWII, if that?
- Spooky23 14y ago
  I'd argue that the British provided inspiration closer in spirit from their concentration camp system in South Africa during the Boer war. The Brits had a tough time with the Boers, who mostly used cavalry and light artillery to conduct guerrilla raids on the British soldiers. The British solution was to round up the non-combatant Boer population and starve them until the men surrendered.
flexie 14y ago
No. Whereas the Japanese American internment was certainly bad, it doesn't compare to holocaust.
notlisted 14y ago
Sure, vote me down. Keep the myth alive. The discovery described entailed new ghettos, forced labor camps, etc. In other words, it's not about new killing centers, and as such NOT about the Holocaust in the typical sense of the word. Do read on in the link I supplied please: "Many camps were built quickly by civilian contractors during the summer of 1942 based on designs for military barracks, making the buildings poorly equipped for cramped family living. To describe the conditions in more detail, the Heart Mountain War Relocation Center in northwestern Wyoming was a barbed-wire-surrounded enclave with unpartitioned toilets, cots for beds, and a budget of 45 cents daily per capita for food rations.[67] Because most internees were evacuated from their West Coast homes on short notice and not told of their assigned destinations, many failed to pack appropriate clothing for Wyoming winters which often reached temperatures below 0 degrees Fahrenheit (−18 degrees Celsius). Many families were forced to simply take the "clothes on their backs." Armed guards were posted at the camps, which were all in remote, desolate areas far from population centers." In short: the new sites discovered were in many ways JUST like the Japanese internment camps (and vice versa), where Japanese people, often citizens of the USA, were kept against their will.
- NoPiece 14y ago
  The internment was bad, but magnitude of the holocaust is so much worse that they are not comparable. From your wiki link: "A number of persons died or suffered for lack of medical care, and several were killed by sentries; James Wakasa, for instance, was killed at Topaz War Relocation Center, near the perimeter wire." To compare to: "Of the nine million Jews who had resided in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.[5] Over one million Jewish children were killed in the Holocaust, as were approximately two million Jewish women and three million Jewish men." You say: "the new sites discovered were in many ways JUST like the Japanese internment camps" and the article says: "The documented camps include not only “killing centers” but also thousands of forced labor camps, where prisoners manufactured war supplies; prisoner-of-war camps; sites euphemistically named “care” centers, where pregnant women were forced to have abortions or their babies were killed after birth; and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military personnel." Your sense of morality is totally broken if you can't differentiate these things.

Yeah, somewhat like this craziness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment#List_of_camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment#Li...

sigzero 14y ago

Not even close. Though what we did was certainly bad enough.

cafard 14y ago

That was bad enough, and it is yet more depressing to know that Hitler got some of his ideas from the US reservation system. Yet to compare the internment of Japanese Americans to the wholesale murder of Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs is a reaching.

krapp 14y ago
And our fascination with eugenics, apparently.
- illuminate 14y ago
  Which didn't end until what, thirty-ish years after the end of WWII, if that?
Spooky23 14y ago
I'd argue that the British provided inspiration closer in spirit from their concentration camp system in South Africa during the Boer war. The Brits had a tough time with the Boers, who mostly used cavalry and light artillery to conduct guerrilla raids on the British soldiers. The British solution was to round up the non-combatant Boer population and starve them until the men surrendered.

flexie 14y ago

No. Whereas the Japanese American internment was certainly bad, it doesn't compare to holocaust.

notlisted 14y ago

Sure, vote me down. Keep the myth alive. The discovery described entailed new ghettos, forced labor camps, etc. In other words, it's not about new killing centers, and as such NOT about the Holocaust in the typical sense of the word. Do read on in the link I supplied please: "Many camps were built quickly by civilian contractors during the summer of 1942 based on designs for military barracks, making the buildings poorly equipped for cramped family living. To describe the conditions in more detail, the Heart Mountain War Relocation Center in northwestern Wyoming was a barbed-wire-surrounded enclave with unpartitioned toilets, cots for beds, and a budget of 45 cents daily per capita for food rations.[67] Because most internees were evacuated from their West Coast homes on short notice and not told of their assigned destinations, many failed to pack appropriate clothing for Wyoming winters which often reached temperatures below 0 degrees Fahrenheit (−18 degrees Celsius). Many families were forced to simply take the "clothes on their backs." Armed guards were posted at the camps, which were all in remote, desolate areas far from population centers." In short: the new sites discovered were in many ways JUST like the Japanese internment camps (and vice versa), where Japanese people, often citizens of the USA, were kept against their will.

NoPiece 14y ago
The internment was bad, but magnitude of the holocaust is so much worse that they are not comparable. From your wiki link: "A number of persons died or suffered for lack of medical care, and several were killed by sentries; James Wakasa, for instance, was killed at Topaz War Relocation Center, near the perimeter wire." To compare to: "Of the nine million Jews who had resided in Europe before the Holocaust, approximately two-thirds were killed.[5] Over one million Jewish children were killed in the Holocaust, as were approximately two million Jewish women and three million Jewish men." You say: "the new sites discovered were in many ways JUST like the Japanese internment camps" and the article says: "The documented camps include not only “killing centers” but also thousands of forced labor camps, where prisoners manufactured war supplies; prisoner-of-war camps; sites euphemistically named “care” centers, where pregnant women were forced to have abortions or their babies were killed after birth; and brothels, where women were coerced into having sex with German military personnel." Your sense of morality is totally broken if you can't differentiate these things.