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New kernel.org

173 points by mrnil 14y ago

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ramidarigaz 14y ago
Nice. Looks clean, things are well sorted.
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nuclear_eclipse 14y ago
I appreciate the move from gitweb to cgit; I've encouraged countless others to make the same transition, and now have a good reference to point at when I do so.
tbassetto 14y ago
I knew I saw this design somewhere else: http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/08/04/designing-a-html-5-layout-from-scratch/ http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/08/04/designing-a-ht... Granted, it's not "complicated" but it's also the same colors... Edit: Smashing Mag is mentioned on Pelican blog: http://blog.getpelican.com http://blog.getpelican.com
- jff 14y ago
  At least they give him credit: https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css
  - SnowLprd 14y ago
    Pelican's default theme includes explicit thanks, and a link, in the footer of every single page -- which is certainly more noticeable than attribution inside a CSS file.
jff 14y ago
Oh hey now it looks like every other site on the Internet.
kristopolous 14y ago
Here's what I did on the old kernel.org: 1. I typed in www.kernel.org 2. I looked for the new kernel on the page that loaded. 3. I clicked on the link and my download started. On the new kernel.org: 1. I type in www.kernel.org 2. I look for the new kernel on the page that loads. 3. I click on the link and my download starts. Conclusion: Good job. You made the site look more modern without disrupting the most common workflow. The only 2 suggestions I have are 1. The entire container for "Latest Stable Kernel" should be the hit point; yes, all of it, including those words. 2. When I hover over the tabular download links, my eye can get confused on which row I'm on. Something purely css and really subtle would alleviate that; for instance: * changing the row background color * changing the color of the font for the row * prepending a UL style dot to the LHS of the row * making the bordertop and borderbottom more distinct * underlying or italicizing the words * etc... any of these things would help and I'm totally agnostic to what is done; it would be a quick fix that would really make the thing less prone to human error.
Nux 14y ago
Seems like a common sense design, no complaints, but it's funny to notice how the wider our screens become, the narrower the sites get.
- wtallis 14y ago
  That's no surprise to me - monitors are so ridiculously wide these days that it's impossible to ignore the need to limit the length of a line of text. When you're working at 1680x1050 you can kinda ignore it, but with 1920 or more horizontal pixels, text needs to be broken up into columns, and you've also got enough horizontal space to have two windows side-by-side without feeling cramped.
  - lucb1e 14y ago
    That has always surprised me about Wikipedia. So many articles on recommended line width, height, font, etc., and Wikipedia gets away with just one style rule (font-family: sans-serif). Never heard any complaints or noticed that it was bad typography. Yeah they have more style rules, but disabling them doesn't visibly change anything so they're the defaults.
parfe 14y ago
I started using pelican recently and I really enjoy static site generation. It's amazing how little needs to actually execute server side (blog content in a database?) It's also much easier to focus on writing when I don't have shiny objects distracting me.
- devicenull 14y ago
  I wish it were a more mainstream thing. It's impossible to compromise a statically generated website (discounting webserver/OS level vulnerablities). It's significantly more secure then Wordpress running tons of plugins
  - entropie 14y ago
    I was never much of a blogger but i liked tumblogs the old days. My webspace could not run ruby so i took the approach 3 times to write a static site generator. For me, i would take that route again. I have my favourite editor to write stuff and who the hell needs a database for a blog or something small? I use the last system i wrote still, but I take notes with it and save images to a local repository.
  - bvdbijl 14y ago
    It's also way faster
  - csense 14y ago
    I'm thinking of being able to serve pages when you hit the front page of HN or Slashdot or Techcrunch. You'll probably be fine, or worst case you can put it on AWS in five minutes and have all the scalability you need. OTOH if you have a database, scaling's going to be a pain.
SnowLprd 14y ago
As a member of the Pelican dev team, I think I speak for all of us when I saw we were thrilled to see such a high-profile site running on Pelican. The folks at kernel.org were even kind enough to mention it on their new site: https://www.kernel.org/pelican.html https://www.kernel.org/pelican.html Those of us in the #pelican IRC channel had a rousing cheer and virtual clinking of the glasses. :^) If anyone has questions about Pelican, please feel free to ask here or on our IRC channel. Edit: And if you're going to PyCon in Santa Clara, CA this month, hit us up on Twitter (@getpelican) to get info about our pre-PyCon meetup.
- geekam 14y ago
  Congrats! Pelican is a great software. Use it together with Github-pages and you do not need any hosting space for your blog/site.
- jevinskie 14y ago
  Any guides on making a pure "portfolio" sort of page, no blog whatsoever? All of the examples that I have seen have a blog component. I am just looking to make some basic header/nav/content/footer type templates. Thanks for your work on Pelican! I found it two days ago while looking for a static site generator and I was excited to see it mentioned in the news.
  - SnowLprd 14y ago
    That's certainly been requested and is coming in the next version, hopefully to be released sometime this month. Thanks to the hard work done by Bruno, one of the other dev team members, you will soon be able to override pages by specifying a source file and a destination URL: https://github.com/getpelican/pelican/pull/623 https://github.com/getpelican/pelican/pull/623 With this in place, you should be able to populate your site with pages (e.g., /content/pages/{index.md,about.md,portfolio.md,contact.md,etc}) without any chronological blog content.
- SkyMarshal 14y ago
  Getting a 404 on getpelican.com. The github site [1] has some info at least. [1]: https://github.com/getpelican https://github.com/getpelican
edsiper2 14y ago
Finally a change... but.. the font looks weird, looking at the CSS: https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css that style was made on 2009!!! Please somebody fix that fonts
Hello71 14y ago
Hm... seems like there's no way to download a tarball in cgit, but I'm not sure if this functionality was enabled in kernel.org's gitweb either.
- LukeShu 14y ago
  I know that cgit supports downloading tarballs of tags at least, but they seem to have disabled that. I can't say I blame them, they already host the official release tarballs, and tag tarballs would only contain the same thing.
meej 14y ago
Well done. I happened to visit kernel.org earlier this week for the first time in many years and I was surprised at the dated appearance.
lucb1e 14y ago
Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.
- indigenous 14y ago
  You need to enable the site in noscript for its fonts to render correctly.
  - lucb1e 14y ago
    Javascript is on.
- BUGHUNTER 14y ago
  ME TOO! http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg When a site like kernel.org goes online with a broken font, something must be fundamentally wrong in the world of programmers and people generating content for displays. What would be the situation like, if we were printing millions of books with 20 dpi technology? Would this be ignored by the masses and people who are annoyed by the eye-hurting results would be trolls? We should see this as a clear (cough) signal, that it is time to start some major broken-font-campaign - more and more web developers seem to be so overloaded with CSS and JS framework learning, they totally forget about the most basic things - IMHO it is still the first and most noble duty of a real webdev to make a site nicely readable on all displays. This annoying font-disease must be taken very seriously - it is ignoring the most important aspects of life: health. I feel offended if somebody forces me to read a website with such a broken font - it hurts my eyes, and as a computer guy I need my eyes for work, so it is a serious attack. I was humbly accepting it as a personal disability for years, that I needed WinXP fonts on every Linux distro to have a satisfying font display. But I kept wondering about how the creators of thousands of Linux tutorial screenshots could not realize that they were looking at a broken font and destroying the functionality of their most important input devices. Luckily in the last years it got much better on Linux, but then came the iFlood, Win7, and finally the ultimate weapon of ophthalmologists for generating an endless income stream: webfonts. Now I am confronted every single day with websites with broken fonts. This is a serious regression and every web designer and every programmer involved in font rendering code should stop working on anything else until this problem is fixed. Yes, I know there are many reasons for this problem, it is not only the web developers - anyway, please let us fix it now.
ronybc 14y ago
Nice... Good... Cool... Required. Thanks for keeping the structure same and putting no 'extra features'.

New kernel.org

173 points by mrnil 14y ago

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ramidarigaz 14y ago

Nice. Looks clean, things are well sorted.

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nuclear_eclipse 14y ago

I appreciate the move from gitweb to cgit; I've encouraged countless others to make the same transition, and now have a good reference to point at when I do so.

tbassetto 14y ago

I knew I saw this design somewhere else: http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/08/04/designing-a-html-5-layout-from-scratch/ http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2009/08/04/designing-a-ht... Granted, it's not "complicated" but it's also the same colors... Edit: Smashing Mag is mentioned on Pelican blog: http://blog.getpelican.com http://blog.getpelican.com

jff 14y ago
At least they give him credit: https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css
- SnowLprd 14y ago
  Pelican's default theme includes explicit thanks, and a link, in the footer of every single page -- which is certainly more noticeable than attribution inside a CSS file.

jff 14y ago

Oh hey now it looks like every other site on the Internet.

kristopolous 14y ago

Here's what I did on the old kernel.org: 1. I typed in www.kernel.org 2. I looked for the new kernel on the page that loaded. 3. I clicked on the link and my download started. On the new kernel.org: 1. I type in www.kernel.org 2. I look for the new kernel on the page that loads. 3. I click on the link and my download starts. Conclusion: Good job. You made the site look more modern without disrupting the most common workflow. The only 2 suggestions I have are 1. The entire container for "Latest Stable Kernel" should be the hit point; yes, all of it, including those words. 2. When I hover over the tabular download links, my eye can get confused on which row I'm on. Something purely css and really subtle would alleviate that; for instance: * changing the row background color * changing the color of the font for the row * prepending a UL style dot to the LHS of the row * making the bordertop and borderbottom more distinct * underlying or italicizing the words * etc... any of these things would help and I'm totally agnostic to what is done; it would be a quick fix that would really make the thing less prone to human error.

Nux 14y ago

Seems like a common sense design, no complaints, but it's funny to notice how the wider our screens become, the narrower the sites get.

wtallis 14y ago
That's no surprise to me - monitors are so ridiculously wide these days that it's impossible to ignore the need to limit the length of a line of text. When you're working at 1680x1050 you can kinda ignore it, but with 1920 or more horizontal pixels, text needs to be broken up into columns, and you've also got enough horizontal space to have two windows side-by-side without feeling cramped.
- lucb1e 14y ago
  That has always surprised me about Wikipedia. So many articles on recommended line width, height, font, etc., and Wikipedia gets away with just one style rule (font-family: sans-serif). Never heard any complaints or noticed that it was bad typography. Yeah they have more style rules, but disabling them doesn't visibly change anything so they're the defaults.

parfe 14y ago

I started using pelican recently and I really enjoy static site generation. It's amazing how little needs to actually execute server side (blog content in a database?) It's also much easier to focus on writing when I don't have shiny objects distracting me.

devicenull 14y ago
I wish it were a more mainstream thing. It's impossible to compromise a statically generated website (discounting webserver/OS level vulnerablities). It's significantly more secure then Wordpress running tons of plugins
- entropie 14y ago
  I was never much of a blogger but i liked tumblogs the old days. My webspace could not run ruby so i took the approach 3 times to write a static site generator. For me, i would take that route again. I have my favourite editor to write stuff and who the hell needs a database for a blog or something small? I use the last system i wrote still, but I take notes with it and save images to a local repository.
- bvdbijl 14y ago
  It's also way faster
- csense 14y ago
  I'm thinking of being able to serve pages when you hit the front page of HN or Slashdot or Techcrunch. You'll probably be fine, or worst case you can put it on AWS in five minutes and have all the scalability you need. OTOH if you have a database, scaling's going to be a pain.

SnowLprd 14y ago

As a member of the Pelican dev team, I think I speak for all of us when I saw we were thrilled to see such a high-profile site running on Pelican. The folks at kernel.org were even kind enough to mention it on their new site: https://www.kernel.org/pelican.html https://www.kernel.org/pelican.html Those of us in the #pelican IRC channel had a rousing cheer and virtual clinking of the glasses. :^) If anyone has questions about Pelican, please feel free to ask here or on our IRC channel. Edit: And if you're going to PyCon in Santa Clara, CA this month, hit us up on Twitter (@getpelican) to get info about our pre-PyCon meetup.

geekam 14y ago
Congrats! Pelican is a great software. Use it together with Github-pages and you do not need any hosting space for your blog/site.
jevinskie 14y ago
Any guides on making a pure "portfolio" sort of page, no blog whatsoever? All of the examples that I have seen have a blog component. I am just looking to make some basic header/nav/content/footer type templates. Thanks for your work on Pelican! I found it two days ago while looking for a static site generator and I was excited to see it mentioned in the news.
- SnowLprd 14y ago
  That's certainly been requested and is coming in the next version, hopefully to be released sometime this month. Thanks to the hard work done by Bruno, one of the other dev team members, you will soon be able to override pages by specifying a source file and a destination URL: https://github.com/getpelican/pelican/pull/623 https://github.com/getpelican/pelican/pull/623 With this in place, you should be able to populate your site with pages (e.g., /content/pages/{index.md,about.md,portfolio.md,contact.md,etc}) without any chronological blog content.
SkyMarshal 14y ago
Getting a 404 on getpelican.com. The github site [1] has some info at least. [1]: https://github.com/getpelican https://github.com/getpelican

edsiper2 14y ago

Finally a change... but.. the font looks weird, looking at the CSS: https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css https://www.kernel.org/theme/css/main.css that style was made on 2009!!! Please somebody fix that fonts

Hello71 14y ago

Hm... seems like there's no way to download a tarball in cgit, but I'm not sure if this functionality was enabled in kernel.org's gitweb either.

LukeShu 14y ago
I know that cgit supports downloading tarballs of tags at least, but they seem to have disabled that. I can't say I blame them, they already host the official release tarballs, and tag tarballs would only contain the same thing.

meej 14y ago

Well done. I happened to visit kernel.org earlier this week for the first time in many years and I was surprised at the dated appearance.

lucb1e 14y ago

Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.

indigenous 14y ago
You need to enable the site in noscript for its fonts to render correctly.
- lucb1e 14y ago
  Javascript is on.
BUGHUNTER 14y ago
ME TOO! http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg When a site like kernel.org goes online with a broken font, something must be fundamentally wrong in the world of programmers and people generating content for displays. What would be the situation like, if we were printing millions of books with 20 dpi technology? Would this be ignored by the masses and people who are annoyed by the eye-hurting results would be trolls? We should see this as a clear (cough) signal, that it is time to start some major broken-font-campaign - more and more web developers seem to be so overloaded with CSS and JS framework learning, they totally forget about the most basic things - IMHO it is still the first and most noble duty of a real webdev to make a site nicely readable on all displays. This annoying font-disease must be taken very seriously - it is ignoring the most important aspects of life: health. I feel offended if somebody forces me to read a website with such a broken font - it hurts my eyes, and as a computer guy I need my eyes for work, so it is a serious attack. I was humbly accepting it as a personal disability for years, that I needed WinXP fonts on every Linux distro to have a satisfying font display. But I kept wondering about how the creators of thousands of Linux tutorial screenshots could not realize that they were looking at a broken font and destroying the functionality of their most important input devices. Luckily in the last years it got much better on Linux, but then came the iFlood, Win7, and finally the ultimate weapon of ophthalmologists for generating an endless income stream: webfonts. Now I am confronted every single day with websites with broken fonts. This is a serious regression and every web designer and every programmer involved in font rendering code should stop working on anything else until this problem is fixed. Yes, I know there are many reasons for this problem, it is not only the web developers - anyway, please let us fix it now.

ronybc 14y ago

Nice... Good... Cool... Required. Thanks for keeping the structure same and putting no 'extra features'.