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I agree with the usefulness of Vim on Linux servers. I would say that everyone is different in how they approach their work and in the case of software developm

I agree with the usefulness of Vim on Linux servers. I would say that everyone is different in how they approach their work and in the case of software development, the tools they use. I wouldn't consider it funny that someone would want to optimize a very important tool to make it more functional. The tools we use for software development are both a curse and a blessing. A curse that there is no ONE TRUE WAY of doing something and a blessing that we can build and mold the tools to accomplish what we need. I am not religious about Vim or any other text editor but I can definitely appreciate others wanting to optimize their usage. Personally, I find that once you have setup Vim the way you want, its pretty much on autopilot. I would say that if someone is a natural tinker, Vim is the best black hole one can get into as there can be no end to the tinkering.

robomartin 14y ago
Yours is an absolutely reasonable non-fanatical position on this topic. No issues whatsoever. My blood pressure goes up when people start to get religious about this stuff. Some go as far as proposing that one can only be a professional programmer if one uses vim, which is utter nonsense.
- goldfeld 14y ago
  Well you've come off as quite the extremist shouting to the rooftops that people shouldn't try to be super efficient with vim. People who might not go out on a limb to say everyone should do it too. As for your comment on tabs and trees, sorry, those are heretics. True vim followers use buffers only.
  - robomartin 14y ago
    > Well you've come off as quite the extremist shouting to the rooftops that people shouldn't try to be super efficient with vim. That's the point. vim does not make you super-efficient at anything other than being a data entry clerk. That's not where significant value is developed in a technology business. > True vim followers use buffers only. Don't forget a Lear Siegler ADM3A terminal over a 300 BAUD modem leased line to the mainframe. Oh, wait, that's the way it was when vi was written. :-) I love this quote from Bill Joy: "I think if I were going to go back—I wouldn't go back, but start over again." http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html

robomartin 14y ago

Yours is an absolutely reasonable non-fanatical position on this topic. No issues whatsoever. My blood pressure goes up when people start to get religious about this stuff. Some go as far as proposing that one can only be a professional programmer if one uses vim, which is utter nonsense.

goldfeld 14y ago
Well you've come off as quite the extremist shouting to the rooftops that people shouldn't try to be super efficient with vim. People who might not go out on a limb to say everyone should do it too. As for your comment on tabs and trees, sorry, those are heretics. True vim followers use buffers only.
- robomartin 14y ago
  > Well you've come off as quite the extremist shouting to the rooftops that people shouldn't try to be super efficient with vim. That's the point. vim does not make you super-efficient at anything other than being a data entry clerk. That's not where significant value is developed in a technology business. > True vim followers use buffers only. Don't forget a Lear Siegler ADM3A terminal over a 300 BAUD modem leased line to the mainframe. Oh, wait, that's the way it was when vi was written. :-) I love this quote from Bill Joy: "I think if I were going to go back—I wouldn't go back, but start over again." http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~kirkenda/joy84.html