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I am so glad to see someone else with perspective at least make their voice heard. This vim thing is absolute lunacy. I was booting machines from scratch thir
by robomartin 14y ago
I am so glad to see someone else with perspective at least make their voice heard. This vim thing is absolute lunacy. I was booting machines from scratch thirty years ago with Forth and writing my own text editors to be able to program the machine. I used crippled keyboards without mice, function keys and cursor buttons. And I gladly said goodbye to that crap years ago.
Then you come to a place like HN and you have "youngsters" forming a cult around a shit editor with a shit interface that ignores all modern peripherals. A shit editor that would have been written in an entirely different way had the authors had access to more than A-Z, 0-9 and a few mode keys. Then they actually make themselves believe that they are being more "efficient" by using this shit editor. I guess that's no different from cults who believe in imaginary things.
As I have said before, show me one company, one project, that has some in on time, budget and without bugs because of their choice of vim over even something like Notepad and I'll eat my words.
Young HN readers need to at least be made to consider that the factors influencing the quality, success or failure of software project or startup have so little to do with your choice of text editors that it is beyond ridiculous to even discuss it.
- Riesling 14y ago> As I have said before, show me one company, one project, that has some in on time, budget and without bugs because of their choice of vim over even something like Notepad and I'll eat my words. Show me one transportation company that would fail because their trucks do not have air conditioning or power steering. Is it nice to have those things, especially if you drive around the entire day? Of couse. I'm with you that vim should not be a cult. But calling it a shit interface is over the top. If it was, why are there so many popular vim emulation plugins for many of the modern IDEs.
- j45 14y agoYou have a fair point. It really doesn't come down to right or wrong, but rather interpretation, and ultimately preference. So, if someone people enjoy vim, celebrate them. Same goes for whatever you use. I do agree that the assumption that nothing can exist beyond how one sees things possibly ever being right being the realer and bigger problem.