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I'm from Canada, too, and I've been listening for a while now. They don't always play the best music, but the variety is nice. Having said that, I think this i

I'm from Canada, too, and I've been listening for a while now. They don't always play the best music, but the variety is nice. Having said that, I think this is a load of horse manure. I don't think that charging some, but not others is very fair. Also, isn't there and Internet adage that says once you release something for free, you can't turn around and charge for it? Or have I been reading too much SvN? In any case, $6/month (CAD) for myself and the same amount for my wife is not worth it. edit: Also, this makes a good case for proxy software. If I'm able to set up a proxy that makes it appear to Last.fm, Pandora, Spotify, etc. that my IP is from the country they accept, I will still get free music. Am I wrong in that conclusion?

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paulgb 18y ago
> If I'm able to set up a proxy that makes it appear to Last.fm, Pandora, Spotify, etc. that my IP is from the country they accept, I will still get free music. I've considered creating EC2 instances and using ssh tunneling to get hulu and some other US-only sites from Canada. I'm not sure if the TOS allows it (of Amazon; I'm pretty sure the TOS of hulu doesn't allow it). I'll try it out when I get back to Canada. And not to get too off-topic, but since you and the above poster are Canadian also, I feel I have to mention CBC's music podcasts which are pretty good if you find one that fits your musical taste: http://www.cbc.ca/podcasting/ http://www.cbc.ca/podcasting/
- wvenable 18y ago
  As as Canadian, I think there should be a market for this kind of thing. For Hulu, I wonder if using a proxy would be a major performance issue. Limiting content based on geography is terrible but you really can't get many people to care because American's get everything and they're the biggest market.
- babo 18y ago
  That cost way more then 3 pounds a month...
  - paulgb 18y ago
    I was suggesting this more for sites like hulu, but when I try the numbers it's actually not unrealistic. 3 pounds is roughly $4.40 USD. The cheapest EC2 instance is $0.10/hour, which would give you 44 hours for that price. I don't know what bitrate last.fm streams at, but assuming it's 128 kbps, 44 hours would be about 2.5 GB transfer, or $0.25. edit: actually, $0.50 because the data goes in and out of the servers. I'm going off the top of my head here, but I think the rate is $0.10/GB I figure I've listened to about 65 hours of music in the last month, so if I replaced half of that with last.fm (For example, I can't use last.fm from the gym), I'd come out ahead. Of course, it wouldn't be worth the hassle for last.fm (killing and starting instances every time you want to play music? not for me). I may try it with hulu though, just for fun.
Goronmon 18y ago
I don't think that charging some, but not others is very fair. Just out of curiosity, what isn't fair about it?

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paulgb 18y ago

> If I'm able to set up a proxy that makes it appear to Last.fm, Pandora, Spotify, etc. that my IP is from the country they accept, I will still get free music. I've considered creating EC2 instances and using ssh tunneling to get hulu and some other US-only sites from Canada. I'm not sure if the TOS allows it (of Amazon; I'm pretty sure the TOS of hulu doesn't allow it). I'll try it out when I get back to Canada. And not to get too off-topic, but since you and the above poster are Canadian also, I feel I have to mention CBC's music podcasts which are pretty good if you find one that fits your musical taste: http://www.cbc.ca/podcasting/ http://www.cbc.ca/podcasting/

wvenable 18y ago
As as Canadian, I think there should be a market for this kind of thing. For Hulu, I wonder if using a proxy would be a major performance issue. Limiting content based on geography is terrible but you really can't get many people to care because American's get everything and they're the biggest market.
babo 18y ago
That cost way more then 3 pounds a month...
- paulgb 18y ago
  I was suggesting this more for sites like hulu, but when I try the numbers it's actually not unrealistic. 3 pounds is roughly $4.40 USD. The cheapest EC2 instance is $0.10/hour, which would give you 44 hours for that price. I don't know what bitrate last.fm streams at, but assuming it's 128 kbps, 44 hours would be about 2.5 GB transfer, or $0.25. edit: actually, $0.50 because the data goes in and out of the servers. I'm going off the top of my head here, but I think the rate is $0.10/GB I figure I've listened to about 65 hours of music in the last month, so if I replaced half of that with last.fm (For example, I can't use last.fm from the gym), I'd come out ahead. Of course, it wouldn't be worth the hassle for last.fm (killing and starting instances every time you want to play music? not for me). I may try it with hulu though, just for fun.

Goronmon 18y ago

I don't think that charging some, but not others is very fair. Just out of curiosity, what isn't fair about it?