This is an interesting example to think about. One might consider that Apple's failure after Jobs' departure suggested Jobs was successful. We're getting into

This is an interesting example to think about. One might consider that Apple's failure after Jobs' departure suggested Jobs was successful. We're getting into the crux of the interplay between success and failure. They are dependent on one another, and they change with time. Again, this totally undermines any sort of binary representation one might try and espouse.