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I am so, so, so disappointed that the narrative of the facts has been warped into something that isn't true. I expected it on Reddit, but not so much here. Giv
by mpyne 14y ago
I am so, so, so disappointed that the narrative of the facts has been warped into something that isn't true. I expected it on Reddit, but not so much here.
Given that I actually serve, let me explain why: He did the INFOSEC equivalent of dropping a nuclear bomb.
Whistleblowing is going, "Hey, I have evidence of War Crime FOO, I should leak this to somebody and blow the whistle". Not, "Oh, look at all this data I have access to, let's just FTP this shiat up to the latest foreign national to hit the news".
In the DoD whistle-blowing is actually a thing, believe it or not. For instance U.S. soldiers committed a horrible atrocity in Iraq involving murder, rape, and arson [1]. The world was alerted to this by an Army soldier (of all things) , Pfc. Justin Watt, who revealed it to a mental health practitioner, who got U.S. Army investigators involved. Notably, Pfc. Watt suspected his chain-of-command would not believe him or would try to cover it up, and yet he still managed to alert investigators without revealing an entire CD-R's worth of classified material.
Pfc. Manning did none of this. He didn't alert U.S. Army CID, the U.S. Army Inspector General (IG), the DoD IG, an American friend back home, a fellow soldier, or even the American media (as the Pentagon papers had been revealed). Edit: Turns out that Pfc. Manning almost managed to inform the media, but ran out of patience (or coffee, or something).
But all of this is assuming that Manning had details of a set of war crimes (1 or many). Even this ends up being more favorable to Manning than reality though. Manning didn't leak "war crimes", he leaked whatever info he could download, without verifying that it was all actually evidence deserving of whistle-blowing. Much of those "evidence of war crimes" were instead the most mundane types of reports (e.g. diplomatic cables describing how Putin and Berlusconi were buddy-buddy, or patrol reports describing how soldiers patrolled a certain area to verify the safety of an Afghan informant). However nice it might be to peek into diplomatic traffic from the outside, it was still classified, it was not evidence of war crimes, and Manning never read it all anyways before he leaked it to a foreign national over an unsecure network.
"But what about all the good stuff he was trying to do?", you might ask. Turns out he even had an ulterior motive to be mad at the Army, he had recently been demoted from Specialist for physically assaulting a fellow soldier. I'll bet Pfc. Manning doesn't even know how much of his exfiltration job was to get back at the Army, and how much was to "blow the whistle". And either way, you don't do horrible things just because it turns out well for a few people (unless you're a Wall St. banker, I suppose).
The saddest part is that prior to 9/11 Manning wouldn't have been able to dream of having access to the information he had access to.
9/11 exposed deep flaws in the U.S. government's ability to handle intelligence agencies amongst the various agencies. It was better for FBI to hoards its intel, CIA to do the same, and etc. all down the line. After 9/11 it was finally realized that this wouldn't work when trying to defend from the kind of terrorism which kills thousands of people at a shot, and so interagency cooperation became the watchword.
The thinking went, if we can trust a soldier enough to die for his country, have his own weapon, and have him analyze the workings of an Islamist group in Iraq, then surely we can trust him if we give him all the intel he needs to do his job, right? Right? I mean really, who's the bigger threat here, Al Qaeda or Pvt. Garcia?
But it only takes one disgruntled soldier to prove otherwise.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings
- anigbrowl 14y agoI wish I could upvote this repeatedly. I'm happy to agree that Manning had some good intentions, but he went about implementing them in a wildly irresponsible way. Many of the people who supported his actions have been pointing to the content of the State Department cables as if they abounded with proof of nefariousness while only exposing their own willful ignorance, to the point of seeming upset that American diplomats engage in intelligence-gathering and are not always completely frank in their dealings with foreigners. Almost all of the 'revelations' in the cables were already matters of public knowledge to anyone sufficiently interested in the countries in question anyway. So much so that at one point I wondered if the whole thing were an exercise in Track II diplomacy.
- rhizome 14y agobut he went about implementing them in a wildly irresponsible way. It's possible that the value of the release is greater than the harm from irresponsibility.
- tptacek 14y agoThat appears unlikely based on the contents of the release. For example, consider the most widely publicized story to emerge from the leaks: Collateral Murder. It turns out that Reuters was given access to this video shortly after the incident, and a detailed description of its contents ran in a newspaper (the Washington Post, IIRC), including time-annotated transcriptions of the radio chatter.
- mpyne 14y agoThere are those who ascribe the 'Arab Spring' to the data leaked by Manning... I'm just still not sure whether that's good for Manning or bad for Manning.
- tptacek 14y agoThis devolves rapidly into politics but for my part I'll say that a credible connection between Wikileaks and the Arab Spring would help affirm the value of the document dump --- though obviously this is a thread about Manning's culpability and I'm with you 100% on that.