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Responding from a French point of view, so that might not match Brazil (but does match Germany): you can not tie a material product with an immaterial one, if y
by nolok 14y ago
Responding from a French point of view, so that might not match Brazil (but does match Germany): you can not tie a material product with an immaterial one, if you do not also sell the material product as a stand alone.
You cannot sell a car with an insurance if you don't sell the car alone.
You cannot sell a phone with a plan if you don't sell the phone alone (see: iPhone 1 release in Europe).
You cannot sell a computer with an OS license if you don't sell the computer alone (you're not buying the disk, but the license to use the software on it).
- phowat 14y agoInteresting, I know that in Brazil the same law applies even if both products are immaterial. For example, it was common for nightclubs here to give you an option of charging less (or nothing at all) for the entrance into the nightclub if you spent a certain amount of money in drinks or whatever else they sold inside. This was also prohibited by the same law since it was tying two separate "products". Wikipedia article (in portuguese) on this law cites that even ( http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venda_casada http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venda_casada ).
- csense 14y agoDrinks seem like a material product to me, they're a consumable physical liquid. The right to enter the nightclub is an immaterial good, along with software or cellphone service. Actually this is a really well-thought-out law.
- demallien 14y agoYou cannot sell a computer with an OS license if you don't sell the computer alone (you're not buying the disk, but the license to use the software on it). Sure you can. I bought a very nice MacBook Air in Paris a couple of months back - and you most definitely can't buy a MacBook Air without OS X.
- nolok 14y agoThe fact that something is illegal doesn't mean people are never doing it; it only means they lose when they go to court. You cannot drive over the speed limit in France, but "sure you can, I just did this morning". There are plenty of court cases, all won by the buyers, where the complaint was that the computer was sold with a windows license, and couldn't be bought without.
- knz42 14y agoIn France you can ask the store to erase the default OS install and be refunded of the price of a standalone OS X. So there you have it.