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Since there are not FAQ/About/Explanation pages can you explain what is the idea behind this ? Other than an online webpage editor that works in Chrome. Edit:

by Kesty 14y ago

Since there are not FAQ/About/Explanation pages can you explain what is the idea behind this ? Other than an online webpage editor that works in Chrome. Edit: I'm asking this because I only see a web editor and a save button that ask you to register and two "sign in" "register" buttons. Other than that i can't relly tell what this is suppose to be other than what I can guess by the Website Title.

bgnm2000 14y ago
Yup, the idea is you create a page on 404engine, and then drop a script tag on your static error page. When the error page is called, it loads the page you created on 404engine dynamically. Tracks requests etc. And it alerts you if the page has over X requests in a day. The point is just that, creating good error pages is the last thing anyone wants to spend time thinking about or doing. So this streamlines that.
- Kesty 14y ago
  >[...] Tracks requests etc. And it alerts you if the page has over X requests in a day. That's the (for me) interesting part but there are no signs of any of that on the website. Probably if I register everything will be explained to me, but let me know what I'm registering for before I do it out of blind faith.
  - bgnm2000 14y ago
    the site is meant to be beyond easy to try out and register for, with the lowest barrier to entry possible. But I understand the problem with not highlighting features initially. That said, if you do register, you can click your email account to modify how many request a page must receive for you to be alerted.
    - krapp 14y ago
      I tried to trigger a 404 on your site hoping I could see one in action (and maybe see an example of the scripting) but you don't appear to be using it yourself? You probably should offer a bit more information. After all, you're targeting this at technical users, the barrier for entry doesn't have to be that low. Particularly since the service you're offering is "trust me to redirect your users with javascript whenever your site messes up."
      - bgnm2000 14y ago
        Agreed - I can't believe I forgot to make one for myself (embarrassing) - will be adding one later this evening. I also agree I need to add more information. The javascript isn't redirecting at all though - just dynamically loading the page in the static error page.
    - DoubleCluster 14y ago
      Nobody is going to register without knowing what they are registering for...
      - bgnm2000 14y ago
        Haha as I am learning now
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  - Kesty 14y ago
    I'm sure it is, it's just that I personally don't like to register to stuff. I need to have a valid reason to register to a website and usually "to find out what the website does" is not one of them. I'm just saying that an explanation on what this service does and how it works before the need to register for it would be nice.
    - bgnm2000 14y ago
      Agreed 100%, definitely has been the lesson learned launching today
- rip747 14y ago
  I really don't understand why you would submit the site to hackernews then. You only have one shot at a first impression especially if your service is a paid one and you're trying to make a sale. By not having an explanation of what the site's purpose, functionality and benefits are, you frustrate visitors that initially go to the site and risk them just writing it off. It's a shame because after reading the explanation you give for your service, this is something that IS extremely useful with a low bar of entry. Please update the site as I would hate to see you lose revenue.
  - bgnm2000 14y ago
    Thanks for your comments! I agree, I need to add some educational info to the site ASAP. I actually posted a show hn earlier that got about no response, even though it had a lengthy explanation. I obviously assumed some elements were obvious that were not. Lesson learned, hopefully it doesn't affect the launch too much.

by Kesty 14y ago

bgnm2000 14y ago

Yup, the idea is you create a page on 404engine, and then drop a script tag on your static error page. When the error page is called, it loads the page you created on 404engine dynamically. Tracks requests etc. And it alerts you if the page has over X requests in a day. The point is just that, creating good error pages is the last thing anyone wants to spend time thinking about or doing. So this streamlines that.

Kesty 14y ago
>[...] Tracks requests etc. And it alerts you if the page has over X requests in a day. That's the (for me) interesting part but there are no signs of any of that on the website. Probably if I register everything will be explained to me, but let me know what I'm registering for before I do it out of blind faith.
- bgnm2000 14y ago
  the site is meant to be beyond easy to try out and register for, with the lowest barrier to entry possible. But I understand the problem with not highlighting features initially. That said, if you do register, you can click your email account to modify how many request a page must receive for you to be alerted.
  - krapp 14y ago
    I tried to trigger a 404 on your site hoping I could see one in action (and maybe see an example of the scripting) but you don't appear to be using it yourself? You probably should offer a bit more information. After all, you're targeting this at technical users, the barrier for entry doesn't have to be that low. Particularly since the service you're offering is "trust me to redirect your users with javascript whenever your site messes up."
    - bgnm2000 14y ago
      Agreed - I can't believe I forgot to make one for myself (embarrassing) - will be adding one later this evening. I also agree I need to add more information. The javascript isn't redirecting at all though - just dynamically loading the page in the static error page.
  - DoubleCluster 14y ago
    Nobody is going to register without knowing what they are registering for...
    - bgnm2000 14y ago
      Haha as I am learning now
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- Kesty 14y ago
  I'm sure it is, it's just that I personally don't like to register to stuff. I need to have a valid reason to register to a website and usually "to find out what the website does" is not one of them. I'm just saying that an explanation on what this service does and how it works before the need to register for it would be nice.
  - bgnm2000 14y ago
    Agreed 100%, definitely has been the lesson learned launching today
rip747 14y ago
I really don't understand why you would submit the site to hackernews then. You only have one shot at a first impression especially if your service is a paid one and you're trying to make a sale. By not having an explanation of what the site's purpose, functionality and benefits are, you frustrate visitors that initially go to the site and risk them just writing it off. It's a shame because after reading the explanation you give for your service, this is something that IS extremely useful with a low bar of entry. Please update the site as I would hate to see you lose revenue.
- bgnm2000 14y ago
  Thanks for your comments! I agree, I need to add some educational info to the site ASAP. I actually posted a show hn earlier that got about no response, even though it had a lengthy explanation. I obviously assumed some elements were obvious that were not. Lesson learned, hopefully it doesn't affect the launch too much.