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Billboard #1 songs of 2000-2009 http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_billbord6.html http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_billbord6.html Now, compar

by snarfy 14y ago

Billboard #1 songs of 2000-2009 http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_billbord6.html http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_billbord6.html Now, compare the previous decades. 1999 is the last time they made anything good (and even that is questionable). They can blame piracy or the internet all they want but really it's their product that sucks.

logn 14y ago
This is around the time that Clear Channel bought up lots of stations. Combine that with piracy which I think caused people to seek out old/existing music they were previously familiar with, and it stagnated the new music. You simply can't have Clear Channel and media conglomerates choosing the hits and expect good results. I think the Internet now does a much better job of generating organic growth of talent and hits, and AM/FM is largely irrelevant.
- randomdata 14y ago
  Even for new music, I remember in the same timeframe always saying that there was no need to buy the CD, I could just turn on the radio and hear the song I wanted to hear within five minutes. The internet was an easy scapegoat, but I agree that broadcast radio was the real downfall of the industry during that time.
k-mcgrady 14y ago
>> "They can blame piracy or the internet all they want but really it's their product that sucks" I think more and more they're having to make product/music that has mass market appeal and the internet's making that worse. You can make the world's worst song and pair it with a stupid viral video and get a number 1. Making good music doesn't guarantee success. Making something that can go viral does.
- logn 14y ago
  I see where you're going with this but it's not the reality today. First, it's not true that viral videos dictate music hits. See 2012 hits: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_2012_%28U.S.%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_sing... . There's only one song (LMFAO) which is popular at least in part due to a creative video. Gotye/Kimbra might make two--but the song itself is absolutely incredible. It's basically the same story for 2011 as well. 2013 has seen two hit songs with viral videos, but the year is young and there's only been 3 hits total. Also, I think all of the viral video hits (Gangnam Style, Thrift Shop, Harlem Shake) are arguably solid pop songs in their own right.
kevincennis 14y ago
This is a really common argument, but I think it's sort of a dishonest one. There are still plenty of great records being made. Discovery tools like Spotify and Pandora are making it easier than ever for people to find new music. Terrestrial radio is still hugely important, but it's entirely possible now to build an online following and force Clear Channel's hand even without major label promotion and payola. If you're not happy with the current landscape of Billboard's Hot 100, I think the blame really falls more with consumers than it does with the labels. Right or wrong, people love "Call Me Maybe".

by snarfy 14y ago

logn 14y ago

This is around the time that Clear Channel bought up lots of stations. Combine that with piracy which I think caused people to seek out old/existing music they were previously familiar with, and it stagnated the new music. You simply can't have Clear Channel and media conglomerates choosing the hits and expect good results. I think the Internet now does a much better job of generating organic growth of talent and hits, and AM/FM is largely irrelevant.

randomdata 14y ago
Even for new music, I remember in the same timeframe always saying that there was no need to buy the CD, I could just turn on the radio and hear the song I wanted to hear within five minutes. The internet was an easy scapegoat, but I agree that broadcast radio was the real downfall of the industry during that time.

k-mcgrady 14y ago

>> "They can blame piracy or the internet all they want but really it's their product that sucks" I think more and more they're having to make product/music that has mass market appeal and the internet's making that worse. You can make the world's worst song and pair it with a stupid viral video and get a number 1. Making good music doesn't guarantee success. Making something that can go viral does.

logn 14y ago
I see where you're going with this but it's not the reality today. First, it's not true that viral videos dictate music hits. See 2012 hits: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_singles_of_2012_%28U.S.%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hot_100_number-one_sing... . There's only one song (LMFAO) which is popular at least in part due to a creative video. Gotye/Kimbra might make two--but the song itself is absolutely incredible. It's basically the same story for 2011 as well. 2013 has seen two hit songs with viral videos, but the year is young and there's only been 3 hits total. Also, I think all of the viral video hits (Gangnam Style, Thrift Shop, Harlem Shake) are arguably solid pop songs in their own right.

kevincennis 14y ago

This is a really common argument, but I think it's sort of a dishonest one. There are still plenty of great records being made. Discovery tools like Spotify and Pandora are making it easier than ever for people to find new music. Terrestrial radio is still hugely important, but it's entirely possible now to build an online following and force Clear Channel's hand even without major label promotion and payola. If you're not happy with the current landscape of Billboard's Hot 100, I think the blame really falls more with consumers than it does with the labels. Right or wrong, people love "Call Me Maybe".