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Good marketing gets you hired. Good networking gives you job opportunities around the globe. Good marketing gets you promotions and bonuses. Good marketing keep

by jd 18y ago

Good marketing gets you hired. Good networking gives you job opportunities around the globe. Good marketing gets you promotions and bonuses. Good marketing keeps your group's product from getting the axe. 0 errors, 0 warnings isn't all that important.

sketerpot 18y ago
0 errors, 0 warnings keeps you from being a leech.
nostrademons 18y ago
Eventually the fakes get found out. You have to be able to back up your marketing with something real. Most good organizations will be suspicious of pure marketing claims unless they can be backed up with hard evidence. So yeah, they'll interview you based on that referral, but you still have to ace the interview. They'll hire you based on the interview, but they'll fire you if you don't perform well on the job.
- benmathes 18y ago
  > Eventually the fakes get found out. You have to be able to back up your marketing with something real. How long is "eventually"? You only need a handful of years marketing crazy financial products to walk away with a fortune. The people who get found out aren't the ones who get hurt.
dinkumthinkum 18y ago
That's fine but marketing doesn't build bridges or cure diseases.
- jpwagner 18y ago
  Lack of marketing could prevent your cure/service/product from being noticed...
  - dinkumthinkum 18y ago
    Not really. This is a myth that marketing schysters try to peddle. A lot of naive people like this view though. These people would have you believe that nothing survives without marketing. When's the last time you saw a commercial for heroin or cocaine? It seems sales are pretty good for those products. And yet, again, all the marketing in the world couldn't build one bridge. It just inherently cannot. Sorry.
    - jpwagner 18y ago
      Drugs are sooo marketed. Celebrities use drugs. Drugs are used in "cool" movies. You are even informed of the euphoric feeling drugs give you in elementary school. The fact that "cool" kids in high school end up experimenting with drugs first is a form of marketing (even if it is organic.) I have three words for your stupid "bridge" argument: BRIDGE TO NOWHERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge)
      - dinkumthinkum 18y ago
        Your argument is that celebrities use drugs? Really? Celebrities also eat food, breath air, and sleep. Maybe you should spend more time evaluating your arguments and less time on OK Magazine. Homeless people, business people, house wives, blue collar workers, people of every walk of life use drugs. Big deal.And the products are all sold without marketing propaganda. How many crack dealers do you really think read Seth Godin? Or "How to Win Friends and Influece?" What is stupid exactly about my "bridge" argument? What does the "bridge to nowhere" have to do with anything? That is just a Red Herring. All the marketing in the world will never produce any non-trivial feat of engineering. Sorry. Part of the issue is that you and people of your view want to point to marketing for the success of any idea; you have no demarcation criterion.
        jpwagner 18y ago
        ?

by jd 18y ago

sketerpot 18y ago

0 errors, 0 warnings keeps you from being a leech.

nostrademons 18y ago

Eventually the fakes get found out. You have to be able to back up your marketing with something real. Most good organizations will be suspicious of pure marketing claims unless they can be backed up with hard evidence. So yeah, they'll interview you based on that referral, but you still have to ace the interview. They'll hire you based on the interview, but they'll fire you if you don't perform well on the job.

benmathes 18y ago
> Eventually the fakes get found out. You have to be able to back up your marketing with something real. How long is "eventually"? You only need a handful of years marketing crazy financial products to walk away with a fortune. The people who get found out aren't the ones who get hurt.

dinkumthinkum 18y ago

That's fine but marketing doesn't build bridges or cure diseases.

jpwagner 18y ago
Lack of marketing could prevent your cure/service/product from being noticed...
- dinkumthinkum 18y ago
  Not really. This is a myth that marketing schysters try to peddle. A lot of naive people like this view though. These people would have you believe that nothing survives without marketing. When's the last time you saw a commercial for heroin or cocaine? It seems sales are pretty good for those products. And yet, again, all the marketing in the world couldn't build one bridge. It just inherently cannot. Sorry.
  - jpwagner 18y ago
    Drugs are sooo marketed. Celebrities use drugs. Drugs are used in "cool" movies. You are even informed of the euphoric feeling drugs give you in elementary school. The fact that "cool" kids in high school end up experimenting with drugs first is a form of marketing (even if it is organic.) I have three words for your stupid "bridge" argument: BRIDGE TO NOWHERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravina_Island_Bridge)
    - dinkumthinkum 18y ago
      Your argument is that celebrities use drugs? Really? Celebrities also eat food, breath air, and sleep. Maybe you should spend more time evaluating your arguments and less time on OK Magazine. Homeless people, business people, house wives, blue collar workers, people of every walk of life use drugs. Big deal.And the products are all sold without marketing propaganda. How many crack dealers do you really think read Seth Godin? Or "How to Win Friends and Influece?" What is stupid exactly about my "bridge" argument? What does the "bridge to nowhere" have to do with anything? That is just a Red Herring. All the marketing in the world will never produce any non-trivial feat of engineering. Sorry. Part of the issue is that you and people of your view want to point to marketing for the success of any idea; you have no demarcation criterion.
      - jpwagner 18y ago
        ?