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All rings true to me both from my intuition and personal experience, HOWEVER... They only briefly mention not to put sugar in your coffee. I think this is a gro

All rings true to me both from my intuition and personal experience, HOWEVER... They only briefly mention not to put sugar in your coffee. I think this is a gross understatement, when all I see everywhere is people walking around with bucket-sized cups of cream and syrup (plus a little espresso). If anything, our consumption of coffee may have spurred the diabetes epidemic by encouraging people to indulge their cream and sugar cravings all day long, in a socially-encouraged and -reinforced way...

Shorel 14y ago
I do agree with the sugar issue. But what's wrong with cream?
superflit 14y ago
Use honey instead of sugar or syrup it is very good.
- Drakim 14y ago
  Is it really? I understand that honey and syrup isn't as bad as pure white sugar, but is it really something that is "good"?
- superflit 14y ago
  @drakim Yes IT is waaaayy better... (of course keep sane proportions) you can check several papers at pubmed. one here [1] [1] = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21310307 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21310307
  - superflit 14y ago
    Honey has several vitamins and mineral together. If not by the weigh gain it is healthier by the vitamins
  - zwieback 14y ago
    from the linked abstract: "honey may reduce weight gain and adiposity, presumably due to lower food intake". Sounds like it only works because you end up consuming less, not because honey is fundamentally healthier than sucrose.
  - mertd 14y ago
    Quoting the conclusion of the linked abstract: "These results suggest that in comparison with sucrose, honey may reduce weight gain and adiposity, presumably due to lower food intake," It seems like the rats on honey diet just ate less. I don't think this transfers to the honey as sweetener use case, where you'd use about the same amount of sugar compounds to reach desired sweetness level of the beverage.
- dhughes 14y ago
  You may find this interesting a company in my town makes dried honey. http://www.honibe.com/ http://www.honibe.com/
vellum 14y ago
This is true. A lot of the concoctions they serve in coffee shops clock in at around 200 calories.
- dntrkv 14y ago
  If only it was that low. A venti latte with 2% milk from Starbucks has 240 calories but a venti white chocolate mocha with 2% milk has 580 calories.
  - awj 14y ago
    In all fairness, twenty ounces of anything but water is probably going to have nutso calorie numbers. That said, even a tall white chocolate mocha is 310 calories.
    - dntrkv 14y ago
      20oz of brewed coffee with no sugar or milk, ~5 calories :)
ImprovedSilence 14y ago
Once, a wiser man than I told me that if you don't like black coffee, just go one week where you drink your coffee black, gag it down at first if you have to, but then you'll be hooked. (once you go black, you never go back...) I tried it, and have been drinking nothing but black coffee for 6 years. I've managed to convert my gf and my dad and several friends as well. It's amazing, and now I can't stand to water down my coffee with cream or sugar. Edit: I've also been told that coffee has the most "flavors" of any beverage out there, orders of magnitude more than wine, or tea. Take it for what you will, I'm not claiming to be capable of distinguishing them, but once you add cream/sugar/etc, you start to neuter the flavors. Savor them my friends, savor them.
- pan69 14y ago
  Many many years ago I worked at this large corporate place where they had a coffee machine on each floor. I only had access to my floor and one day the coffee machine on my floor ran out of milk. So, for a week or so I took my coffee without milk. For some reason the machine was filled up again and the next week it also ran out of sugar forcing me to take my coffee black. Ever since I have been drinking my coffee black and today I can't imagine having milk or sugar in my coffee since it will ruin the glorious taste of it.
  - josscrowcroft 14y ago
    That said, I go nuts for the flavour of soy milk in coffee, with a touch of brown sugar (must be heated before being added, mind you). Guilty pleasure :o) but I gave up alcohol so I think net–gain.

Shorel 14y ago

I do agree with the sugar issue. But what's wrong with cream?

superflit 14y ago

Use honey instead of sugar or syrup it is very good.

Drakim 14y ago
Is it really? I understand that honey and syrup isn't as bad as pure white sugar, but is it really something that is "good"?
superflit 14y ago
@drakim Yes IT is waaaayy better... (of course keep sane proportions) you can check several papers at pubmed. one here [1] [1] = http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21310307 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21310307
- superflit 14y ago
  Honey has several vitamins and mineral together. If not by the weigh gain it is healthier by the vitamins
- zwieback 14y ago
  from the linked abstract: "honey may reduce weight gain and adiposity, presumably due to lower food intake". Sounds like it only works because you end up consuming less, not because honey is fundamentally healthier than sucrose.
- mertd 14y ago
  Quoting the conclusion of the linked abstract: "These results suggest that in comparison with sucrose, honey may reduce weight gain and adiposity, presumably due to lower food intake," It seems like the rats on honey diet just ate less. I don't think this transfers to the honey as sweetener use case, where you'd use about the same amount of sugar compounds to reach desired sweetness level of the beverage.
dhughes 14y ago
You may find this interesting a company in my town makes dried honey. http://www.honibe.com/ http://www.honibe.com/

vellum 14y ago

This is true. A lot of the concoctions they serve in coffee shops clock in at around 200 calories.

dntrkv 14y ago
If only it was that low. A venti latte with 2% milk from Starbucks has 240 calories but a venti white chocolate mocha with 2% milk has 580 calories.
- awj 14y ago
  In all fairness, twenty ounces of anything but water is probably going to have nutso calorie numbers. That said, even a tall white chocolate mocha is 310 calories.
  - dntrkv 14y ago
    20oz of brewed coffee with no sugar or milk, ~5 calories :)

ImprovedSilence 14y ago

Once, a wiser man than I told me that if you don't like black coffee, just go one week where you drink your coffee black, gag it down at first if you have to, but then you'll be hooked. (once you go black, you never go back...) I tried it, and have been drinking nothing but black coffee for 6 years. I've managed to convert my gf and my dad and several friends as well. It's amazing, and now I can't stand to water down my coffee with cream or sugar. Edit: I've also been told that coffee has the most "flavors" of any beverage out there, orders of magnitude more than wine, or tea. Take it for what you will, I'm not claiming to be capable of distinguishing them, but once you add cream/sugar/etc, you start to neuter the flavors. Savor them my friends, savor them.

pan69 14y ago
Many many years ago I worked at this large corporate place where they had a coffee machine on each floor. I only had access to my floor and one day the coffee machine on my floor ran out of milk. So, for a week or so I took my coffee without milk. For some reason the machine was filled up again and the next week it also ran out of sugar forcing me to take my coffee black. Ever since I have been drinking my coffee black and today I can't imagine having milk or sugar in my coffee since it will ruin the glorious taste of it.
- josscrowcroft 14y ago
  That said, I go nuts for the flavour of soy milk in coffee, with a touch of brown sugar (must be heated before being added, mind you). Guilty pleasure :o) but I gave up alcohol so I think net–gain.