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certainly all their hardware has been a complete failure in the marketplace Nexus 7 sale estimates are 4.6 million. Fine, so they haven't ousted Apple yet, but

by Jabbles 14y ago

certainly all their hardware has been a complete failure in the marketplace Nexus 7 sale estimates are 4.6 million. Fine, so they haven't ousted Apple yet, but it's by no means a "complete failure". I like mine :) That seems to be the only "argument" in the article. The others seem to be arguments from personal incredulity. http://news.yahoo.com/nexus-7-sales-soared-2012-still-fell-short-225058966.html http://news.yahoo.com/nexus-7-sales-soared-2012-still-fell-s... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity#Personal_incredulity http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity#Perso...

ocean12 14y ago
Unless I'm wrong, the big ASUS splashed across the back of my Nexus 7 seems to say that someone other than Google made the device.
- psbp 14y ago
  You mean the small ASUS under the big NEXUS?
  - ocean12 14y ago
    No, I don't.
    - psbp 14y ago
      To refresh your memory: http://cdn.arstechnica.net//wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nexus-7-back.jpg http://cdn.arstechnica.net//wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nexus...
    - ocean12 14y ago
      Exactly my point.
      - psbp 14y ago
        By invalidating your point?
      - ocean12 14y ago
        Take another look. Just because Nexus is bigger doesn't mean Asus isn't.
      - psbp 14y ago
        The Nexus branding is much more visible than the Asus one. It's over 2x as large and centered directly in your line of sight as you're holding the tablet. You can't seriously think that people would look at the branding and think that it places more importance on the manufacturer than it does the nexus brand name.
- Jabbles 14y ago
  So what Google hardware was he referring to when he said it had been a complete failure? Their in-house servers? I suppose they haven't sold any of them...
- bergie 14y ago
  It is unlikely to Google will build factories to make the Glass, either. It might be a Google-branded product (like ChromeBook Pixel), or something they'll license to other manufacturers (like Android), or a hybrid of these (Nexus). Time will tell.
levesque 14y ago
Asus makes the Nexus 7, so it's not entirely a Google product.
- ohwp 14y ago
  Foxconn makes the iPad, iPhone and iPod. So they are not entirely Apple products..?
  - levesque 14y ago
    Yeah, it is exactly the same thing. It's a pleasure argueing with you.
ansible 14y ago
Yeah, I turned off when Nick said: Google has never had a successful product that people pay for. And then contradicts himself in the next sentence, saying that he pays for Google Docs. I switched my company to Google Docs Enterprise, and it has been pretty good so far, except for the trips behind the Great Firewall of China. It is definitely worth the money we pay, which really isn't much. As for Google's hardware, the present generation is pretty good. If I didn't want a hardware keyboard so bad, I'd already have ordered a Nexus 4. I've got the N10, and aside from the occasional crash and video playback glitches, it has been pretty good too. I won't seriously consider a non-Android mobile device for my next purchase, unless it too has an open-source OS. If they have a version of Glass which has some augmented reality capability, I'd definitely consider purchasing one too. I don't need much, but being able to overlay waypoints over my field of view while navigating would be awesome. I don't currently foresee me using the photo and video capture features much.
jgroome 14y ago
He actually name-checks Nexus as an example of a failed product. Meanwhile the Android community is generally in love with the Nexus 4, I know two non-techies who love their Nexus 4s (Nexuses 4?), and I myself think my Nexus 7 is a joy to use. Granted, there were those problems getting the initial batch of 4s out to the public, but that's hardly grounds to say a company is incapable of making customers happy, surely.
- pyre 14y ago
  | there were those problems getting the initial | batch of 4s out to the public If he's hinging his argument on those initial/release production issues, then I guess he views the PS2 as a failure as well?

by Jabbles 14y ago

ocean12 14y ago

Unless I'm wrong, the big ASUS splashed across the back of my Nexus 7 seems to say that someone other than Google made the device.

psbp 14y ago
You mean the small ASUS under the big NEXUS?
- ocean12 14y ago
  No, I don't.
  - psbp 14y ago
    To refresh your memory: http://cdn.arstechnica.net//wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nexus-7-back.jpg http://cdn.arstechnica.net//wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nexus...
  - ocean12 14y ago
    Exactly my point.
    - psbp 14y ago
      By invalidating your point?
    - ocean12 14y ago
      Take another look. Just because Nexus is bigger doesn't mean Asus isn't.
    - psbp 14y ago
      The Nexus branding is much more visible than the Asus one. It's over 2x as large and centered directly in your line of sight as you're holding the tablet. You can't seriously think that people would look at the branding and think that it places more importance on the manufacturer than it does the nexus brand name.
Jabbles 14y ago
So what Google hardware was he referring to when he said it had been a complete failure? Their in-house servers? I suppose they haven't sold any of them...
bergie 14y ago
It is unlikely to Google will build factories to make the Glass, either. It might be a Google-branded product (like ChromeBook Pixel), or something they'll license to other manufacturers (like Android), or a hybrid of these (Nexus). Time will tell.

levesque 14y ago

Asus makes the Nexus 7, so it's not entirely a Google product.

ohwp 14y ago
Foxconn makes the iPad, iPhone and iPod. So they are not entirely Apple products..?
- levesque 14y ago
  Yeah, it is exactly the same thing. It's a pleasure argueing with you.

ansible 14y ago

Yeah, I turned off when Nick said: Google has never had a successful product that people pay for. And then contradicts himself in the next sentence, saying that he pays for Google Docs. I switched my company to Google Docs Enterprise, and it has been pretty good so far, except for the trips behind the Great Firewall of China. It is definitely worth the money we pay, which really isn't much. As for Google's hardware, the present generation is pretty good. If I didn't want a hardware keyboard so bad, I'd already have ordered a Nexus 4. I've got the N10, and aside from the occasional crash and video playback glitches, it has been pretty good too. I won't seriously consider a non-Android mobile device for my next purchase, unless it too has an open-source OS. If they have a version of Glass which has some augmented reality capability, I'd definitely consider purchasing one too. I don't need much, but being able to overlay waypoints over my field of view while navigating would be awesome. I don't currently foresee me using the photo and video capture features much.

jgroome 14y ago

He actually name-checks Nexus as an example of a failed product. Meanwhile the Android community is generally in love with the Nexus 4, I know two non-techies who love their Nexus 4s (Nexuses 4?), and I myself think my Nexus 7 is a joy to use. Granted, there were those problems getting the initial batch of 4s out to the public, but that's hardly grounds to say a company is incapable of making customers happy, surely.

pyre 14y ago
| there were those problems getting the initial | batch of 4s out to the public If he's hinging his argument on those initial/release production issues, then I guess he views the PS2 as a failure as well?