> So you concede there's lots of stuff that many of us won't use? That's pretty much the definition of bloat. Hiding it doesn't make it go away. I define bloat

> So you concede there's lots of stuff that many of us won't use? That's pretty much the definition of bloat. Hiding it doesn't make it go away. I define bloat differently. It needs to a) unnecessarily add complexity to the core functions I personally use, and b) degrades performance. wget has tons of features that I've never used, but I don't consider it bloated. To me, hiding it well does in fact make for a bloat-free application. Agree with your other points.