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This is not even remotely a compromise: "The plan does not prevent content owners from suing internet subscribers" In other words, in addition to facing the r

This is not even remotely a compromise: "The plan does not prevent content owners from suing internet subscribers" In other words, in addition to facing the risk of ludicrous damages, you can have your Internet access disabled, hampering your ability to find and communicate with a lawyer. Naturally, the Obama administration backs such a plan -- the thought of people actually defending themselves in court never occurred to them anyway. "On the third and fourth infractions, the subscriber will likely receive a pop-up notice "asking the subscriber to acknowledge receipt of the alert."" Hm, if I did this to communicate with my neighbors, I might go to prison. Nice to know that ISPs are not expected to follow the same laws I am.

sp332 14y ago
you can have your Internet access disabled, hampering your ability to find and communicate with a lawyer. None of the six steps involve disabling your internet. Some ISPs have said they will disconnect you after you've been through the six steps, but others claim they won't.
smokinjoe 14y ago
My impression was that this program will actually reduce the number of lawsuits due to copyright violations because it gives the Content Owners another avenue to enforce their claims.
- betterunix 14y ago
  Not as long as the copyright holder can both utilize this system and file suit. If it were an exclusive or it might reduce the number of lawsuits.
  - smokinjoe 14y ago
    I'm making that assumption based on the personal opinion that there will be plenty of smaller cases that the copyright holder won't want to take to court due to the trivial nature/context/amount of sharing. I recall a lot of lawsuits that looked terrible for the RIAA/MPAA because they ended up going for elderly people, or parents of a young child who didn't know better. This helps prevent those situations. I agree and would prefer some sort of protections against the double whammy - but I really believe that this move is more to get the news out to inform people that they are pirating, and what to do about it.
lukifer 14y ago
I'm curious what "pop-up notice" means. I expect they simply mean a DNS redirect; anything more adds a whole new level of creepy (as if this plan needed more). On the plus side, it's a good time to be in the VPN business. :P
- betterunix 14y ago
  I suspect that number of people using Tor to download their entertainment is going to skyrocket. Good news for cover traffic, of course, but without more exit nodes the network is going to be in trouble.

sp332 14y ago

you can have your Internet access disabled, hampering your ability to find and communicate with a lawyer. None of the six steps involve disabling your internet. Some ISPs have said they will disconnect you after you've been through the six steps, but others claim they won't.

smokinjoe 14y ago

My impression was that this program will actually reduce the number of lawsuits due to copyright violations because it gives the Content Owners another avenue to enforce their claims.

betterunix 14y ago
Not as long as the copyright holder can both utilize this system and file suit. If it were an exclusive or it might reduce the number of lawsuits.
- smokinjoe 14y ago
  I'm making that assumption based on the personal opinion that there will be plenty of smaller cases that the copyright holder won't want to take to court due to the trivial nature/context/amount of sharing. I recall a lot of lawsuits that looked terrible for the RIAA/MPAA because they ended up going for elderly people, or parents of a young child who didn't know better. This helps prevent those situations. I agree and would prefer some sort of protections against the double whammy - but I really believe that this move is more to get the news out to inform people that they are pirating, and what to do about it.

lukifer 14y ago

I'm curious what "pop-up notice" means. I expect they simply mean a DNS redirect; anything more adds a whole new level of creepy (as if this plan needed more). On the plus side, it's a good time to be in the VPN business. :P

betterunix 14y ago
I suspect that number of people using Tor to download their entertainment is going to skyrocket. Good news for cover traffic, of course, but without more exit nodes the network is going to be in trouble.