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I'd hate to defend against an assailant with a bolt-action rifle in my hands. Not only can it take 5-6 shots to take someone down (depending on what drugs they

I'd hate to defend against an assailant with a bolt-action rifle in my hands. Not only can it take 5-6 shots to take someone down (depending on what drugs they are on, were the shots hit, and the caliber and velocity of the bullet), but I'd imagine that in that specific moment of shock and panic were your life is in danger, it would be kind of difficult to properly operate a weapon that requires more actions over a simple trigger pull. The only thing that makes an AR15 and similar weapons “assault weapons” is that the general public believes that semi-automatic weapons are the same thing as fully automatic weapons, and they look scary.

ceejayoz 14y ago
That's why shotguns are popular for home defense, not bolt-action rifles.
- powertower 14y ago
  Assailants, murders, bad guys, and general criminals can take your life away from you outside your home, through a wall, via a car, and from a further distance than a shotgun could defend you from. Aside from that, and as I've stated, in that moment of panic and terror when your life is about to end, operating a weapon that requires a pump or a bolt action is not ideal. You'll jam it up, forget to pump it back, etc. I also don't quite understand how other people can dictate to me that I shouldn't own a one trigger pull / one shot weapon because it looks scary - while being somewhat functionaly identical to a non-scary looking simi rifle or handgun.
  - ceejayoz 14y ago
    Let's not go and pretend surprise drive-by shootings and long-range snipings are the standard case for a home invasion.
    - powertower 14y ago
      So what issue do you have with me owning a single trigger pull / single fire AR15?
      - ceejayoz 14y ago
        I have an issue with folks being able to own one with less vetting and registration requirements than you need to own/operate a car. I have to prove I can safely operate a car to drive one.
        hga 14y ago
        Unfortunately for you, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is an enumerated Constitutional right, and there are strict limits on the restrictions that can be placed on those. Any analogy with merely owning a car fails hard, in all but really revenue hungry jurisdictions car ownership has no restrictions of this kind. It's only when you want to put it on the road that you have to get plates and a licensed driver. And there's a vast distance between the skill and experience needed to safely drive a car and use a gun; in just accidental deaths, this shows in the ratio of 58:1 from memory when I last calculated (> 30,000 vs. a bit over 600 annually; I can look that up if you want).
jonnycoder 14y ago
I hope to see more mainstream commentary on how AR-15s are beneficial and preferable by a lot of women due to the reduced recoil. Shotguns are good for home defense and so is a 9mm, but both have much recoil compared to an AR-15.

ceejayoz 14y ago

That's why shotguns are popular for home defense, not bolt-action rifles.

powertower 14y ago
Assailants, murders, bad guys, and general criminals can take your life away from you outside your home, through a wall, via a car, and from a further distance than a shotgun could defend you from. Aside from that, and as I've stated, in that moment of panic and terror when your life is about to end, operating a weapon that requires a pump or a bolt action is not ideal. You'll jam it up, forget to pump it back, etc. I also don't quite understand how other people can dictate to me that I shouldn't own a one trigger pull / one shot weapon because it looks scary - while being somewhat functionaly identical to a non-scary looking simi rifle or handgun.
- ceejayoz 14y ago
  Let's not go and pretend surprise drive-by shootings and long-range snipings are the standard case for a home invasion.
  - powertower 14y ago
    So what issue do you have with me owning a single trigger pull / single fire AR15?
    - ceejayoz 14y ago
      I have an issue with folks being able to own one with less vetting and registration requirements than you need to own/operate a car. I have to prove I can safely operate a car to drive one.
      - hga 14y ago
        Unfortunately for you, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is an enumerated Constitutional right, and there are strict limits on the restrictions that can be placed on those. Any analogy with merely owning a car fails hard, in all but really revenue hungry jurisdictions car ownership has no restrictions of this kind. It's only when you want to put it on the road that you have to get plates and a licensed driver. And there's a vast distance between the skill and experience needed to safely drive a car and use a gun; in just accidental deaths, this shows in the ratio of 58:1 from memory when I last calculated (> 30,000 vs. a bit over 600 annually; I can look that up if you want).

jonnycoder 14y ago

I hope to see more mainstream commentary on how AR-15s are beneficial and preferable by a lot of women due to the reduced recoil. Shotguns are good for home defense and so is a 9mm, but both have much recoil compared to an AR-15.