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How is Android kernel not a standard Linux ? Ubuntu and Android simply share the Linux kernel. I don't see any preposterous about it.

by Shorel 14y ago

AndresNavarro 14y ago
I suppose he meant Android is not what Stallman would call GNU/Linux (and could actually be called Android/Linux if you will). See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu
- mtgx 14y ago
  And Ubuntu is? Last I checked Stallman hated Ubuntu, and told everyone to stop using it.
  - jcastro 14y ago
    Ubuntu, along with Debian, Fedora, and just about every major distro have always been on RMS's "not recommended" list.
  - CrazedGeek 14y ago
    It's still the GNU userland on top of the Linux kernel, whether he likes it or not.
    - derekp7 14y ago
      This is the one thing I don't understand about the GNU/Linux thing. Doesn't calling it GNU/Linux imply that it is derived from the GNU/FSF philosophy? To me it would make sense if another term can be coined to refer to systems that have a GNU base, yet go against GNU's goals, yet still credit the GNU project for its contributions. (I hope I'm not re-igniting the bad parts of the GNU/Linux debate).
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    Ubuntu is certainly what Stallman would call GNU/Linux. Just try to call it otherwise in his presense. ;)
josteink 14y ago
> How is Android kernel not a standard Linux ? Historically it wasn't, but checking around it seems like the kernel sources for Android has been unified and merged with the standard Linux-kernel so now they are indeed the same thing. My bad.
- JoshTriplett 14y ago
  Several ongoing efforts exist to get Android bits into the upstream Linux kernel, but those efforts have definitely not finished, and Android kernels still have quite a pile of changes that probably won't make it upstream.
Symmetry 14y ago
Well, a large number of distros, Ubuntu included I believe, apply patches to their kernel that aren't in the official Linux kernel. Android's patches are far more extensive, and so it makes sense to talk about the "Android Linux kernel" as something distinct from the "standard Linux kernel".

How is Android kernel not a standard Linux ? Ubuntu and Android simply share the Linux kernel. I don't see any preposterous about it.

by Shorel 14y ago

How is Android kernel not a standard Linux ? Ubuntu and Android simply share the Linux kernel. I don't see any preposterous about it.

AndresNavarro 14y ago

I suppose he meant Android is not what Stallman would call GNU/Linux (and could actually be called Android/Linux if you will). See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linuxsyswithoutgnu

mtgx 14y ago
And Ubuntu is? Last I checked Stallman hated Ubuntu, and told everyone to stop using it.
- jcastro 14y ago
  Ubuntu, along with Debian, Fedora, and just about every major distro have always been on RMS's "not recommended" list.
- CrazedGeek 14y ago
  It's still the GNU userland on top of the Linux kernel, whether he likes it or not.
  - derekp7 14y ago
    This is the one thing I don't understand about the GNU/Linux thing. Doesn't calling it GNU/Linux imply that it is derived from the GNU/FSF philosophy? To me it would make sense if another term can be coined to refer to systems that have a GNU base, yet go against GNU's goals, yet still credit the GNU project for its contributions. (I hope I'm not re-igniting the bad parts of the GNU/Linux debate).
- jlgreco 14y ago
  Ubuntu is certainly what Stallman would call GNU/Linux. Just try to call it otherwise in his presense. ;)

josteink 14y ago

> How is Android kernel not a standard Linux ? Historically it wasn't, but checking around it seems like the kernel sources for Android has been unified and merged with the standard Linux-kernel so now they are indeed the same thing. My bad.

JoshTriplett 14y ago
Several ongoing efforts exist to get Android bits into the upstream Linux kernel, but those efforts have definitely not finished, and Android kernels still have quite a pile of changes that probably won't make it upstream.

Symmetry 14y ago

Well, a large number of distros, Ubuntu included I believe, apply patches to their kernel that aren't in the official Linux kernel. Android's patches are far more extensive, and so it makes sense to talk about the "Android Linux kernel" as something distinct from the "standard Linux kernel".