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Sure, they can do what they want. But I thought we were sorta discussing piracy. Again, I'm not trying to justify myself. I'm just going to pirate it, end of st

by smtddr 14y ago

Sure, they can do what they want. But I thought we were sorta discussing piracy. Again, I'm not trying to justify myself. I'm just going to pirate it, end of story. What prevents me from doing that is if they make it available for download or stream before piratebay does. I'm not arguing any point here, I'm just providing one data-point. There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later.

enraged_camel 14y ago
>>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.
- smtddr 14y ago
  Heh, everyone reading this thread. All I asked for is downloadable/streamable content at the same time as CableTV. Look how hostile the replies to me have become. So far I've been identified as entitled, absurd, in need of some perspective and unwilling to pay for content.
  - beedogs 14y ago
    All of those angry comments frankly seem almost like astroturfing.
    - smtddr 14y ago
      Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. Notice how they completely dismiss my point of view with terms like "entitled","absurd","unwilling to pay",etc. and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. This pretty much happens with every major change that disturbs the status quo cash cow, but the change ultimately happens anyway ;) And with that, I'm out of here!
      - enraged_camel 14y ago
        >>Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. So you're basically admitting to trolling? Nice. >>and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. We acknowledged it. We also pointed out that it is not a valid justification for you or anyone to pirate said content, because nobody is entitled to instant access to stuff that comes out. I don't know how to put it more simply than that.
- beedogs 14y ago
  > Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. You're acting like typing "http://thepiratebay.se http://thepiratebay.se into a web browser is somehow a Herculean feat that people are challenged with. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but it's actually easier than pretty much any other method of media consumption, by a fucking lot. Also, frankly I'm tired of people using the word "entitlement" in situations where it's really far too strong of a word to be using. I download shit because it's fucking simple to do and because there's literally no other way to consume said content (since, before some imbecile starts throwing accusations around, I don't live in the US.) If there were a way to pay for it that was comparably simple to piracy, I probably would choose to do that some of the time.
  - GHFigs 14y ago
    People use the word "entitlement" because when you say this... I download shit because...there's literally no other way to consume said content ...you're making the assumption that you are entitled to consume that content simply because it exists, and that not consuming the content isn't even an option.
    - beedogs 14y ago
      I like the part where you quoted me out of context to make me seem unreasonable. The content is right there, for the taking. So I take it. If it weren't there, I wouldn't take it. (Duh.) How's that "entitled" activity? Are you that obtuse, or are you just trolling?
      - GHFigs 14y ago
        I like the part where you quoted me out of context to make me seem unreasonable. I don't know what you mean. I'm trying to show you why people perceive you as having an unreasonable sense of entitlement: it's the things you say that makes people think that. If your own words strike you as unreasonable, you may be close to understanding why other people see them that way. I don't know what context you want me to have included. The reasons you give (e.g. "I want it", "it's available" and "it's fucking simple to do") don't make you seem any less like you have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. It's like saying "I eat because I'm hungry and there is food." Those things are obvious. But neither of them explain why you feel justified in taking from somebody else's plate. The difference stands out even more without the analogy: Hunger is an actual human need, whereas watching Game of Thrones the night it's first broadcast in another hemisphere is actually very far from being a need.

by smtddr 14y ago

enraged_camel 14y ago

>>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.

smtddr 14y ago
Heh, everyone reading this thread. All I asked for is downloadable/streamable content at the same time as CableTV. Look how hostile the replies to me have become. So far I've been identified as entitled, absurd, in need of some perspective and unwilling to pay for content.
- beedogs 14y ago
  All of those angry comments frankly seem almost like astroturfing.
  - smtddr 14y ago
    Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. Notice how they completely dismiss my point of view with terms like "entitled","absurd","unwilling to pay",etc. and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. This pretty much happens with every major change that disturbs the status quo cash cow, but the change ultimately happens anyway ;) And with that, I'm out of here!
    - enraged_camel 14y ago
      >>Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. So you're basically admitting to trolling? Nice. >>and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. We acknowledged it. We also pointed out that it is not a valid justification for you or anyone to pirate said content, because nobody is entitled to instant access to stuff that comes out. I don't know how to put it more simply than that.
beedogs 14y ago
> Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. You're acting like typing "http://thepiratebay.se http://thepiratebay.se into a web browser is somehow a Herculean feat that people are challenged with. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but it's actually easier than pretty much any other method of media consumption, by a fucking lot. Also, frankly I'm tired of people using the word "entitlement" in situations where it's really far too strong of a word to be using. I download shit because it's fucking simple to do and because there's literally no other way to consume said content (since, before some imbecile starts throwing accusations around, I don't live in the US.) If there were a way to pay for it that was comparably simple to piracy, I probably would choose to do that some of the time.
- GHFigs 14y ago
  People use the word "entitlement" because when you say this... I download shit because...there's literally no other way to consume said content ...you're making the assumption that you are entitled to consume that content simply because it exists, and that not consuming the content isn't even an option.
  - beedogs 14y ago
    I like the part where you quoted me out of context to make me seem unreasonable. The content is right there, for the taking. So I take it. If it weren't there, I wouldn't take it. (Duh.) How's that "entitled" activity? Are you that obtuse, or are you just trolling?
    - GHFigs 14y ago
      I like the part where you quoted me out of context to make me seem unreasonable. I don't know what you mean. I'm trying to show you why people perceive you as having an unreasonable sense of entitlement: it's the things you say that makes people think that. If your own words strike you as unreasonable, you may be close to understanding why other people see them that way. I don't know what context you want me to have included. The reasons you give (e.g. "I want it", "it's available" and "it's fucking simple to do") don't make you seem any less like you have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. It's like saying "I eat because I'm hungry and there is food." Those things are obvious. But neither of them explain why you feel justified in taking from somebody else's plate. The difference stands out even more without the analogy: Hunger is an actual human need, whereas watching Game of Thrones the night it's first broadcast in another hemisphere is actually very far from being a need.