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Unacceptable. If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. T

by smtddr 14y ago

Unacceptable. If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. The moment people around me want to discuss the show is the moment I want it and not a second later. I will pirate it if need be. I won't "wait a few months". I'm not here trying to justify piracy either; think whatever you want of me - I'm not waiting, that's all I'm saying. You want me to pay for it? You better be ready to give it to me the same time people around me are talking about it. And it needs to be in a friendly format. Netflix/HULU/whatever or downloadable files for my cyanogenmod KindleFire.

city41 14y ago
Unacceptable? It's a tv show. I think some perspective is needed. It's also a tv show that HBO owns the full rights to and is free to do with it as they please.
- smtddr 14y ago
  Sure, they can do what they want. But I thought we were sorta discussing piracy. Again, I'm not trying to justify myself. I'm just going to pirate it, end of story. What prevents me from doing that is if they make it available for download or stream before piratebay does. I'm not arguing any point here, I'm just providing one data-point. There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later.
  - enraged_camel 14y ago
    >>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.
    - smtddr 14y ago
      Heh, everyone reading this thread. All I asked for is downloadable/streamable content at the same time as CableTV. Look how hostile the replies to me have become. So far I've been identified as entitled, absurd, in need of some perspective and unwilling to pay for content.
      - beedogs 14y ago
        All of those angry comments frankly seem almost like astroturfing.
        smtddr 14y ago
        Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. Notice how they completely dismiss my point of view with terms like "entitled","absurd","unwilling to pay",etc. and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. This pretty much happens with every major change that disturbs the status quo cash cow, but the change ultimately happens anyway ;) And with that, I'm out of here!
        enraged_camel 14y ago
        >>Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. So you're basically admitting to trolling? Nice. >>and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. We acknowledged it. We also pointed out that it is not a valid justification for you or anyone to pirate said content, because nobody is entitled to instant access to stuff that comes out. I don't know how to put it more simply than that.
    - beedogs 14y ago
      > Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. You're acting like typing "http://thepiratebay.se http://thepiratebay.se into a web browser is somehow a Herculean feat that people are challenged with. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but it's actually easier than pretty much any other method of media consumption, by a fucking lot. Also, frankly I'm tired of people using the word "entitlement" in situations where it's really far too strong of a word to be using. I download shit because it's fucking simple to do and because there's literally no other way to consume said content (since, before some imbecile starts throwing accusations around, I don't live in the US.) If there were a way to pay for it that was comparably simple to piracy, I probably would choose to do that some of the time.
brown9-2 14y ago
HBO is willing to sell it to you, you just don't like the price they want to charge.
- smtddr 14y ago
  Incorrect. Sell it to me using a modern medium, I'll buy it. Netflix/HULU/AmzInstant or downloadable files. That's fine. CableTV, No.
  - GHFigs 14y ago
    I am not a user, but HBO Go does not strike me as any less of a "modern medium" than Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Instant.
    - oijaf888 14y ago
      How do you sign up for HBO Go? I can see how to sign up for Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Instant but HBO Go appears to require a few other accounts than just signing up and paying them money.
      - brown9-2 14y ago
        You need to subscribe to HBO via your cable provider and then login with the account provided by your cable provider.
    - beedogs 14y ago
      HBO Go requires a cable subscription. That immediately disqualifies it.
      - GHFigs 14y ago
        I don't understand. Netflix and Hulu are also subscription services. If it's about the price of a cable subscription, then brown9-2 was exactly right to begin with: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276396 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276396
waterlesscloud 14y ago
I've also had no problem talking to people about it when I've waited to watch it. Your attitude is over the top self-entitled.
- smtddr 14y ago
  I'm over the top self-entitled? Because I don't think it's reasonable to discuss a TVshow with people who have probably forgotten the details months after they saw it? I don't think it's fair for you to reach that conclusion. What's okay for you isn't okay for everyone. I think you're the one who's failing to see things from other people's view. But again, I'm not here to debate. I'm just 1 tiny data-point. Provide me streamable/downloadable content the same time the CableTV gets it. That's what I need. That's all I came in this thread to say.
biot 14y ago
If TV shows are such an important part of your social life, why don't you watch the shows with your family and friends? You know, as in go over to their house, bring some munchies, and socialize? The argument that you have no option but to pirate it in order to be socially relevant is absurd.
GHFigs 14y ago
If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. Lost is among the worst examples you could have chosen. It was one of the first shows available for day-after purchase on iTunes, and from the third season on had free day-after streaming on ABC's own site. And it was literally broadcast over the air for free. So to be clear: You really are saying that even eight hours is too much of a delay. You really are saying that you want exactly what cable TV customers get, but that you don't want to pay anything for it. Since you like getting free things so much, here's some free advice: If your relationships with your friends and family can't transcend such a trivial incompatibility as having not watched the same television show at exactly the same moment, maybe you should try watching it with them. Surely between all of you, somebody is willing to actually pay for something that is allegedly so crucial to how you interact with one another. (If none are willing to pay for it, that raises the question of how any of you are able to afford the time involved.)
- beedogs 14y ago
  > If your relationships with your friends and family can't transcend such a trivial incompatibility as having not watched the same television show at exactly the same moment, maybe you should try watching it with them. Great idea; let's all fly cross-country once a week to watch a TV show. (You really haven't considered the feasibility of your 'solution' very much, have you?)
  - GHFigs 14y ago
    I contend that I have thought about this a lot more than you have, and that your incredulity stems directly from choosing not to think about it. But to respond, anyway: If your relationships with distant friends and family depend on you watching television shows at the same time, and you're unwilling to pay the asked price for those television shows, then yeah, maybe you should fly cross-country to see them. Because what does it say about how much you value those relationships if the thing that is allegedly so important to them is not only ephemeral and impersonal but also thought of as not worth paying for? Personally, I think the better option is to not feel like you have to watch all the same television at the same time as other people, but that seems to be a wildly unpopular notion these days.

by smtddr 14y ago

city41 14y ago

Unacceptable? It's a tv show. I think some perspective is needed. It's also a tv show that HBO owns the full rights to and is free to do with it as they please.

smtddr 14y ago
Sure, they can do what they want. But I thought we were sorta discussing piracy. Again, I'm not trying to justify myself. I'm just going to pirate it, end of story. What prevents me from doing that is if they make it available for download or stream before piratebay does. I'm not arguing any point here, I'm just providing one data-point. There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later.
- enraged_camel 14y ago
  >>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.
  - smtddr 14y ago
    Heh, everyone reading this thread. All I asked for is downloadable/streamable content at the same time as CableTV. Look how hostile the replies to me have become. So far I've been identified as entitled, absurd, in need of some perspective and unwilling to pay for content.
    - beedogs 14y ago
      All of those angry comments frankly seem almost like astroturfing.
      - smtddr 14y ago
        Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. Notice how they completely dismiss my point of view with terms like "entitled","absurd","unwilling to pay",etc. and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. This pretty much happens with every major change that disturbs the status quo cash cow, but the change ultimately happens anyway ;) And with that, I'm out of here!
        enraged_camel 14y ago
        >>Oh, not just seems like. It is. I baited them all. So you're basically admitting to trolling? Nice. >>and don't even begin to acknowledge the problem with the delay between cable-tv and legal internet availability. We acknowledged it. We also pointed out that it is not a valid justification for you or anyone to pirate said content, because nobody is entitled to instant access to stuff that comes out. I don't know how to put it more simply than that.
  - beedogs 14y ago
    > Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. You're acting like typing "http://thepiratebay.se http://thepiratebay.se into a web browser is somehow a Herculean feat that people are challenged with. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but it's actually easier than pretty much any other method of media consumption, by a fucking lot. Also, frankly I'm tired of people using the word "entitlement" in situations where it's really far too strong of a word to be using. I download shit because it's fucking simple to do and because there's literally no other way to consume said content (since, before some imbecile starts throwing accusations around, I don't live in the US.) If there were a way to pay for it that was comparably simple to piracy, I probably would choose to do that some of the time.

brown9-2 14y ago

HBO is willing to sell it to you, you just don't like the price they want to charge.

smtddr 14y ago
Incorrect. Sell it to me using a modern medium, I'll buy it. Netflix/HULU/AmzInstant or downloadable files. That's fine. CableTV, No.
- GHFigs 14y ago
  I am not a user, but HBO Go does not strike me as any less of a "modern medium" than Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Instant.
  - oijaf888 14y ago
    How do you sign up for HBO Go? I can see how to sign up for Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Instant but HBO Go appears to require a few other accounts than just signing up and paying them money.
    - brown9-2 14y ago
      You need to subscribe to HBO via your cable provider and then login with the account provided by your cable provider.
  - beedogs 14y ago
    HBO Go requires a cable subscription. That immediately disqualifies it.
    - GHFigs 14y ago
      I don't understand. Netflix and Hulu are also subscription services. If it's about the price of a cable subscription, then brown9-2 was exactly right to begin with: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276396 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276396

waterlesscloud 14y ago

I've also had no problem talking to people about it when I've waited to watch it. Your attitude is over the top self-entitled.

smtddr 14y ago
I'm over the top self-entitled? Because I don't think it's reasonable to discuss a TVshow with people who have probably forgotten the details months after they saw it? I don't think it's fair for you to reach that conclusion. What's okay for you isn't okay for everyone. I think you're the one who's failing to see things from other people's view. But again, I'm not here to debate. I'm just 1 tiny data-point. Provide me streamable/downloadable content the same time the CableTV gets it. That's what I need. That's all I came in this thread to say.

biot 14y ago

If TV shows are such an important part of your social life, why don't you watch the shows with your family and friends? You know, as in go over to their house, bring some munchies, and socialize? The argument that you have no option but to pirate it in order to be socially relevant is absurd.

GHFigs 14y ago

If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. Lost is among the worst examples you could have chosen. It was one of the first shows available for day-after purchase on iTunes, and from the third season on had free day-after streaming on ABC's own site. And it was literally broadcast over the air for free. So to be clear: You really are saying that even eight hours is too much of a delay. You really are saying that you want exactly what cable TV customers get, but that you don't want to pay anything for it. Since you like getting free things so much, here's some free advice: If your relationships with your friends and family can't transcend such a trivial incompatibility as having not watched the same television show at exactly the same moment, maybe you should try watching it with them. Surely between all of you, somebody is willing to actually pay for something that is allegedly so crucial to how you interact with one another. (If none are willing to pay for it, that raises the question of how any of you are able to afford the time involved.)

beedogs 14y ago
> If your relationships with your friends and family can't transcend such a trivial incompatibility as having not watched the same television show at exactly the same moment, maybe you should try watching it with them. Great idea; let's all fly cross-country once a week to watch a TV show. (You really haven't considered the feasibility of your 'solution' very much, have you?)
- GHFigs 14y ago
  I contend that I have thought about this a lot more than you have, and that your incredulity stems directly from choosing not to think about it. But to respond, anyway: If your relationships with distant friends and family depend on you watching television shows at the same time, and you're unwilling to pay the asked price for those television shows, then yeah, maybe you should fly cross-country to see them. Because what does it say about how much you value those relationships if the thing that is allegedly so important to them is not only ephemeral and impersonal but also thought of as not worth paying for? Personally, I think the better option is to not feel like you have to watch all the same television at the same time as other people, but that seems to be a wildly unpopular notion these days.