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Don't work with recruiters, period. Why? From the hiring side of the table, here's why. 1) they misrepresent you and lie. "Kevin has 10+ years of experience wi
by madaxe 14y ago
Don't work with recruiters, period. Why? From the hiring side of the table, here's why.
1) they misrepresent you and lie. "Kevin has 10+ years of experience with Ruby on Rails". I go "huh, Kevin's a lying shit. Bin."
2) 40% of your goddamned salary finders fee?! Fuck that shit I'll find someone else.
3) why would I be interested in employing you if you're not interested in us? The fact that you've gone to a recruiter just says "I have no idea what I'm doing or where I want to go, and I can't be bothered with research"
4) why would I hire someone that's already on myriad recruiter databases and therefore likely to be poached by the same shyster that placed you?
So, yeah, don't use recruiters. As an employer, I get 20+ emails per day from these animated coproliths, and they all get deleted. I don't have time to read 30 CVs for "javas php rubo on rales" developers.
I'll just hire the smart cookie who wants to work for us and approaches us directly.
Edit: also, the only reason recruiters exist is because they exist. They introduce artificial scarcity in the labour market and then exploit the deficit they created.
No better than ambulance-chasers.
Double edit: just to ram home how useless these people are, in the last seven years I've had recruiters try to sell me myself, no fewer than three times. Not a single thought between their immaculately preened ears.
- Nursie 14y agoI agree that agents are shysters but... 3) I'm a competent engineer and I could go anywhere. Why should I pretend you're the most awesome thing in the world or lie about how loyal I'm going to be?
- asdfologist 14y ago1) You worked with the wrong recruiters. 2) Same as 1. Standard is 25-30%. 3) Some of the best hires at firms I've worked at came from recruiters. From the candidates' point of view, it's often a lot more efficient to find matching positions and land offers through recruiters. 4) Same as 3. Loyal employees use recruiters too.
- berlinbrown 14y agoTrue, But how much of your time or HR's time goes to scanning through resumes. If you only spend time reading 30 resumes. And it possible a recruiter database has 100's, possibly with good candidates, then you must missed a good set of candidates. And then there is a timing issue. How long is your job post out there? 2 weeks, 2 months? So in the window of time that your post is out there, candidates have to find your site and your job post. Recruiters, that is what they do. Everyday, they are scanning for candidates, filling positions. I don't like it but at least it makes sense.
- column 14y agoI once contacted a company about a job offer they had published on a university's alumni website. First thing they did was redirect me to their favorite recruitment agency so they would screen me before they considered my application.