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In list form: * América Móvil * China Unicom * Deutsche Telekom * Etisalat * Hutchison Three Group * KDDI * KT * MegaFon * Qtel * SingTel * Smart *
by slater 14y ago
In list form:
* América Móvil
* China Unicom
* Deutsche Telekom
* Etisalat
* Hutchison Three Group
* KDDI
* KT
* MegaFon
* Qtel
* SingTel
* Smart
* Sprint
* Telecom Italia Group
* Telefónica
* Telenor
* TMN
* VimpelCom
- timdorr 14y agoDeutsche Telekom is known as T-Mobile here in the US. So, the #3 and #4 networks will support it. I wonder if AT&T or Verizon will chime in soon?
- jbodeen 14y ago5 out of the top 10 mobile providers in the world are on that list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operators http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mobile_network_operator...
- OGinparadise 14y agoAny idea why? Too new or maybe because Mozilla is not corporate backed? I thought telcos hated the fact that just Android and iPhone were it
- yareally 14y agolooking at how the galaxy nexus was treated on Verizon, I doubt they have much interest. Verizon would probably be for measures to prevent the bootloader from being unlocked and want control of updates. Mozilla probably doesn't want to agree to those terms either, so I would be surprised if Verizon ever had one. Just my experience with being a long time Verizon user and Android OS hobbyist modder.
- zobzu 14y agoTechnically they could just take FirefoxOS and lock it down if they wanted - Mozilla's approval is not needed
- mintplant 14y agoPerhaps something could be added into the license agreement to prevent such usage?
- antrix 14y agoBut they wouldn't be able to call it FirefoxOS. The source may be open but the brand & trademark certainly aren't.
- yareally 14y agoYeah, I think you're correct. They'd have to remove all Firefox branding/advertising if they went against Mozilla's wishes.
- yareally 14y agoTrue, sans all the Firefox branding and such they could do that without Mozilla's consent. With how Verizon went out of their way to ensure their Galaxy S3 was the only one that prevented users for easily unlocking the bootloader and enabling system writing, I don't foresee a positive future with any open OS on Verizon. I'm probably switching to T-Mobile when my contract is up next year. I enjoy the unlimited LTE dataspeed on Verizon I still have, but I'm not interested in keeping it while paying full price for a phone I don't really want.
- rogerbinns 14y agoDT (non-US) and T-Mobile in the US don't operate as a single unit, so the former committing to Firefox doesn't mean anything in the US. As an example iPhone is available on DT, but not T-Mobile.
- mikeash 14y agoThe iPhone's lack of availability on T-Mobile is actually a technical limitation, because T-Mobile uses a very unusual frequency band for 3G that most phones, including the iPhone, don't support. They are changing over to something more common, and will likely get the iPhone soon because of it. Not to argue with anything you're saying, just pointing out that that particular decision was more technical than anything.
- rogerbinns 14y agoDefinitely a past tense thing, and there isn't anything stopping the sales of iPhones now. Heck they claim there are already ~2 million iPhones on the network already! The "unusual" frequency is also known as AWS bands, and are also used by other carriers and in other countries (only 4 at the moment so not pervasive), although there are now LTE deployments happening in the AWS bands. The frequency retasking that allows a regular GSM iPhone to work is in full swing - http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mobiles-network-modernization-what-is-it-where-can-i-get-coverage/ http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mobiles-network-modernizati... - there is even a Twitter account tracking sightings https://twitter.com/UMTS1900 https://twitter.com/UMTS1900 and a map http://airportal.de http://airportal.de When tmobile does start selling the iPhone (rumoured to be a few months out) it will be interesting to see if they piggyback off the parent company or deal with Apple directly. In order to deal with Apple you have comply with minimum order quantities (remember the Sprint $20bn numbers) http://www.asymco.com/2013/01/17/the-iphone-moq/ http://www.asymco.com/2013/01/17/the-iphone-moq/
- mikeash 14y agoWell, people were using iPhones on T-Mobile from day 1. It always worked, but 3G didn't. So, while "working", data speeds were excruciatingly slow. (I actually went the opposite direction for a little while. I had a Nexus One made for T-Mobile which I used on my AT&T account. It had the same problem in reverse, since it only had T-Mobile's 3G frequencies. The phone itself was decent, but the data speeds were a killer.) Anyway, good to hear that it's happening, and thanks for the links. More competition is good, and I'm sure that a T-Mobile iPhone will help.
- cmelbye 14y agoWhy would they?
- ximeng 14y agoBBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21522713 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21522713) says they will launch in "Brazil, Colombia, Hungary, Mexico, Montenegro, Poland, Serbia, Spain and Venezuela". All middle income countries, with the exception of Spain.
- callahad 14y agoDuring the Q&A, Gary Kovacs (CEO, Mozilla Corp.) mentioned that a USA release would probably happen around 2014, given that the initial launch is designed to deliver "mid to mid-high smartphone capabilities at mid to mid-high feature phone costs."
- bobbles 14y agoAlso "Telstra is welcoming the Mozilla initiative as an opportunity to deliver an innovative mobile Web experience to their customers." No idea why Telstra got their own little sentence, but they're australias traditional monopoly carrier who own all the phone lines.. so them being on board doesn't really give me a positive impression of what this commitment will entail.
- zmmmmm 14y agoMakes it sound like telstra was not happy to be called "committed" but said something nice back in the email reply so they thought it was worth putting in their PR.
- robryan 14y agoNot sure if your comment is negative on Telstra? Despite their faults they do run the best mobile network in Australia.
- damian2000 14y agoSome of their faults IMHO.. - They charge like a wounded bull - They have let the copper network fall into ruin [1] - I have only ever had bad experiences with their customer service - I have contempt for their service technicians [1] http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2012/11/23/3639761.htm http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2012/11/23/3639761...
- robryan 14y agoYeah, guess I avoid any copper issues by using mobile only and cable internet.
- ash 14y agoI'm excited about Firefox OS and would love it to succeed. But I'm sceptical about this announcement. In this list are Megafon and VimpelCom (AKA Beeline), two of the three leading operators in Russia. But their commitment means nearly nothing in this case. Mobile operators in Russia have little control over their customers' devices. Very few people buy phones and mobile contracts together. That doesn't means operators aren't trying to sell devices tied to mobile contract. But it's still far from common.
- slurgfest 14y agoIn a place where phone sales are not based on contracts, the commitment of the operator is meaningless. On the other hand, it is not really necessary as it would be in the US.
- deepGem 14y agoNot one damn operator from India. What a shame.
- pjmlp 14y agoLets how many of those will feature operator "enhancements".