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>Dylan's fellow hacker replies in detail about issues with the security of content on the Xbox Live Marketplace—the Xbox 360's online store—but doesn't elaborat

>Dylan's fellow hacker replies in detail about issues with the security of content on the Xbox Live Marketplace—the Xbox 360's online store—but doesn't elaborate on the Gamertag issue. The e-mail ends with a request for the Microsoft person to maybe put in a good word for them. "I don't mean to ask anything of you, and if I denied, I'll still be more than willing to help," Dylan's apparent hacker friend writes, "but do you think it would be possible that me and Dylan, if proved to be useful, could possibly list someone we've spoken to on your end as a reference for resumes or something of the sort?" This part is puzzling to me. I think that at that point they had proved themselves capable enough to ask Microsoft to straight up hire/contract them, and not just for a resume quote. Establishing this kind of relationship with Microsoft could have also prevented the seizure. >Dylan told me that he was polite and helpful during the raid, but that "they didn't allow me a lawyer...that's probably the biggest right they took from me." Does anyone here know Australian law? I certainly don't but at first glance it looks like Dylan was intimidated into not doing what was legally the right thing.

misnome 14y ago
Is it a right to have a Lawyer during a raid? It's not like they didn't have a warrant, and he doesn't have to talk to them during the raid - it's the equipment and evidence they are collecting.
objclxt 14y ago
I know of no jurisdiction where there's a right to legal representation during a raid. This makes complete sense, because otherwise you could attempt to hold up a raid and dispose of evidence whilst you waited for your legal counsel to get there. Your can argue about what is and isn't admissible post the raid. So I don't really think in that particular example any 'right' was taken from him.
landr0id 14y ago
> This part is puzzling to me. I think that at that point they had proved themselves capable enough to ask Microsoft to straight up hire/contract them, and not just for a resume quote. Establishing this kind of relationship with Microsoft could have also prevented the seizure. The marketplace issue is somewhat common knowledge amongst people deeply involved in the Xbox scene. The issue here, to me, is that the "fellow hacker" reported something that he himself didn't discover relating to content security. DaE is also a psychopath, and shouldn't be hired by Microsoft.

misnome 14y ago

Is it a right to have a Lawyer during a raid? It's not like they didn't have a warrant, and he doesn't have to talk to them during the raid - it's the equipment and evidence they are collecting.

objclxt 14y ago

I know of no jurisdiction where there's a right to legal representation during a raid. This makes complete sense, because otherwise you could attempt to hold up a raid and dispose of evidence whilst you waited for your legal counsel to get there. Your can argue about what is and isn't admissible post the raid. So I don't really think in that particular example any 'right' was taken from him.

landr0id 14y ago

> This part is puzzling to me. I think that at that point they had proved themselves capable enough to ask Microsoft to straight up hire/contract them, and not just for a resume quote. Establishing this kind of relationship with Microsoft could have also prevented the seizure. The marketplace issue is somewhat common knowledge amongst people deeply involved in the Xbox scene. The issue here, to me, is that the "fellow hacker" reported something that he himself didn't discover relating to content security. DaE is also a psychopath, and shouldn't be hired by Microsoft.