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> What are they not doing in this specific instance? Remove the link to the content of his book he choose not to publically share. I fail to see what's difficu

by doe88 14y ago

> What are they not doing in this specific instance? Remove the link to the content of his book he choose not to publically share. I fail to see what's difficult to understand.

jre 14y ago
The root of the problem is the Indonesian institution hosting the book, not Google. A search engine should show you what's publicly available on the internet with as little filters as possible, otherwise it opens the doors to a lot of abuse.
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DanBC 14y ago
> Remove the link to the content of his book They have removed the link. Google removes very many links every day. There's clear law about this, and Google obeys that law. Are you suggesting that the need to do more than the law says? Whatever Google does, the content is still available. It's been posted to Usenet news at least once. (http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Construction&max=100&adv_age=1100&server= http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Constructi...)
- doe88 14y ago
  > Are you suggesting that the need to do more than the law says? No, all I'm suggesting is that Google removes this link [1] as asked by the author of the book. Again, I fail to see what's hard to understand. > Whatever Google does, the content is still available. It's been posted to Usenet news at least once. (http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Constructi... http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Constructi...) Google is not responsible for others indexing systems, I've never said otherwise. [1] http://www.imagebam.com/image/e2e9df239055991 http://www.imagebam.com/image/e2e9df239055991
  - packetslave 14y ago
    If you look carefully, you'll note that the link in your screenshot is not the same as the one in Dr. Meyer's DMCA complaint.
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  - DanBC 14y ago
    They did remove the link that the author asked them to remove. That just promoted another link to a pirate version of the book up the list. A useful service might be something that helps tell Indonesian colleges that they've allowed directory traversal open, and that they have copyright violating materials available to the world. Or a tool that helps gather a list of all the IP owners of a collection of material at a site (the site in the image also has other books, as well as a 4.3 GB iso called "IBM_RSA_V803" (I'm guessing it's IBM's Rational Software Architect?) and then helps with coordinate a collaborative request for IP takedown effort.
omaranto 14y ago
They did remove the link, what are you talking about?

by doe88 14y ago

> What are they not doing in this specific instance? Remove the link to the content of his book he choose not to publically share. I fail to see what's difficult to understand.

jre 14y ago

The root of the problem is the Indonesian institution hosting the book, not Google. A search engine should show you what's publicly available on the internet with as little filters as possible, otherwise it opens the doors to a lot of abuse.

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DanBC 14y ago

> Remove the link to the content of his book They have removed the link. Google removes very many links every day. There's clear law about this, and Google obeys that law. Are you suggesting that the need to do more than the law says? Whatever Google does, the content is still available. It's been posted to Usenet news at least once. (http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Construction&max=100&adv_age=1100&server= http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Constructi...)

doe88 14y ago
> Are you suggesting that the need to do more than the law says? No, all I'm suggesting is that Google removes this link [1] as asked by the author of the book. Again, I fail to see what's hard to understand. > Whatever Google does, the content is still available. It's been posted to Usenet news at least once. (http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Constructi... http://binsearch.info/?q=Object+Oriented+Software+Constructi...) Google is not responsible for others indexing systems, I've never said otherwise. [1] http://www.imagebam.com/image/e2e9df239055991 http://www.imagebam.com/image/e2e9df239055991
- packetslave 14y ago
  If you look carefully, you'll note that the link in your screenshot is not the same as the one in Dr. Meyer's DMCA complaint.
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- DanBC 14y ago
  They did remove the link that the author asked them to remove. That just promoted another link to a pirate version of the book up the list. A useful service might be something that helps tell Indonesian colleges that they've allowed directory traversal open, and that they have copyright violating materials available to the world. Or a tool that helps gather a list of all the IP owners of a collection of material at a site (the site in the image also has other books, as well as a 4.3 GB iso called "IBM_RSA_V803" (I'm guessing it's IBM's Rational Software Architect?) and then helps with coordinate a collaborative request for IP takedown effort.

omaranto 14y ago

They did remove the link, what are you talking about?