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Saw this thread when it had just 2 points and hoped it won't get upvoted since it's just -- sorry to say -- a useless post full of misinformation without delive

by tferris 14y ago

Saw this thread when it had just 2 points and hoped it won't get upvoted since it's just -- sorry to say -- a useless post full of misinformation without delivering any message. I highly doubt the author has enough experience with building relationships, getting laid, get the right one and so on: Now, since it's on the front page my view. You have two options: Either you spend your time in your early 20s chasing women and spending all your time on building relationships and getting laid or: Start at least 5 startups until you are 25 and hope that one of them gets kind of profitable or even better and you do an exit. Starting later is getting harder and harder, you are spoiled by high salaries and laid back office work and suddenly you have a child and it's getting to risky to start anything. The experience you make as an employee hardly help you as an entrepreneur but you need to fail often as an entrepreneur -- every failed startup brings you tons of experience and closer to a successful company. Back to the girls: if you got successful with your startups you don't have to think about relationships and girls -- you'll send so much self-confidence and they're will be tons of opportunities. And even if you still do startups which didn't succeed you have much more to tell then any office drone. You'll have much more opportunities than those who desperately looking for the SO without having a life or anything to tell. That doesn't mean that you should omit any social life or getting laid while building a startup, it just means don't focus on this, focus on being an entrepreneur.

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- tferris 14y ago
  > Silicon Valley is filled with rich startup guys who can't get a date. You didn't get the point, it's not about being rich. It's about having a life and having achieved something, you don't need to be necessarily rich, you need self-confidence to approach women. You can train self-confidence and fake it until you make it with tons of PUA books and resources BUT building self-confidence by starting something is much easier and more effective.
  - beaner 14y ago
    I disagree. I have had success in tech twice. Trying to talk about it usually bores my dates. I could talk about it all day with someone who was interested, but for some strange reason the topics of web development and working from home simply don't tantalize them. It's given me zero boost to confidence in dating.
    - tferris 14y ago
      Very good point and I forgot to write it. You are totally right women usually won't get it when you talk about let's say business related achievements because they are often not interested and don't get it AND MUCH MORE IMPORTANT: because you are qualifying in that moment: you send the signal 'hey look, I am doing impressive stuff, I am special, please like me' which makes you again needy and unattractive -- now we are knee deep in PUA stuff -- that's too obvious and women aren't stupid, you have to learn how you transform the energy you got by your achievements into your general self-confidence. Telling that you are an entrepreneur who makes tons of money is the wrong way. You will signal this automatically without telling anything about your startup life. When I peaked in my professional life I told that I am a "grocery bagger" and I converted 100% to the next step while converting 0% when I told the truth. Then, when closed and in later stages your startup life gets more relevant since it shows that do stuff that matters and it helps transforming an one-night-affair into a relationship. Guys, if you haven't done this before, now is the time, get PUA stuff and learn this like you'd learn Go or C++.
- beaner 14y ago
  I would say that even that isn't reality. I'm a rich startup guy in NYC and I can't get a date. City and status aren't enough.
  - tferris 14y ago
    > I'm a rich startup guy in NYC and I can't get a date. This is weird as long you got rich by your own startup/achievements. Then, you really need some help. As cheesy it may sounds you should get quickly some PUA resources and/or training. Getting laid and the SO is 70% about self-confidence and having state and 30% about tactics/getting reframed/brainwashed which you get from PUA's. Do this today. Every men should once get into this stuff.

by tferris 14y ago

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tferris 14y ago
> Silicon Valley is filled with rich startup guys who can't get a date. You didn't get the point, it's not about being rich. It's about having a life and having achieved something, you don't need to be necessarily rich, you need self-confidence to approach women. You can train self-confidence and fake it until you make it with tons of PUA books and resources BUT building self-confidence by starting something is much easier and more effective.
- beaner 14y ago
  I disagree. I have had success in tech twice. Trying to talk about it usually bores my dates. I could talk about it all day with someone who was interested, but for some strange reason the topics of web development and working from home simply don't tantalize them. It's given me zero boost to confidence in dating.
  - tferris 14y ago
    Very good point and I forgot to write it. You are totally right women usually won't get it when you talk about let's say business related achievements because they are often not interested and don't get it AND MUCH MORE IMPORTANT: because you are qualifying in that moment: you send the signal 'hey look, I am doing impressive stuff, I am special, please like me' which makes you again needy and unattractive -- now we are knee deep in PUA stuff -- that's too obvious and women aren't stupid, you have to learn how you transform the energy you got by your achievements into your general self-confidence. Telling that you are an entrepreneur who makes tons of money is the wrong way. You will signal this automatically without telling anything about your startup life. When I peaked in my professional life I told that I am a "grocery bagger" and I converted 100% to the next step while converting 0% when I told the truth. Then, when closed and in later stages your startup life gets more relevant since it shows that do stuff that matters and it helps transforming an one-night-affair into a relationship. Guys, if you haven't done this before, now is the time, get PUA stuff and learn this like you'd learn Go or C++.
beaner 14y ago
I would say that even that isn't reality. I'm a rich startup guy in NYC and I can't get a date. City and status aren't enough.
- tferris 14y ago
  > I'm a rich startup guy in NYC and I can't get a date. This is weird as long you got rich by your own startup/achievements. Then, you really need some help. As cheesy it may sounds you should get quickly some PUA resources and/or training. Getting laid and the SO is 70% about self-confidence and having state and 30% about tactics/getting reframed/brainwashed which you get from PUA's. Do this today. Every men should once get into this stuff.