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>give me an example America. ... You people are dense to the point of complete idiocy. My point is that the current period of prosperous peace (relatively s

>give me an example America. ... You people are dense to the point of complete idiocy. My point is that the current period of prosperous peace (relatively speaking) will certainly not last forever. Wars are a fact of life, and when they happen, regimes fall and power vacuums arise. Sometimes, those vacuums are filled not by the most capable (and rarely by the most benevolent) but by the most ambitious. Given the history of the human race, it would be foolish to believe that there will never be another Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, et al, and on a long enough timeline, it would be incredibly foolish to believe that there will never be one in your neck of the woods, wherever that may be. What are you going to do when you've been labeled an enemy of the state and your friends and family are being shuttled off to a labor camp? Write a strongly worded fucking letter? Guns are our insurance policy that we will not be easily oppressed, whether by a foreign invader or our own government, and that you people have such a difficult time accepting this obvious truth is utterly baffling.

darkchasma 14y ago
America? The war where the tyrannical overreaching government wanted to take away people's right to own other people and enforce more control over the states than the southern states wanted? Because the government; it won. (I'm pretty happy it did too!) :) So, yea... Great example.
- notdrunkatall 14y ago
  Yes, that America - where people were able to stand up for what they believed in and fight and die for that belief if they so chose. That is precisely the America that I am talking about. And do you know why the South lost? Because the majority of America was not on board with slavery. It was an idea whose time had come to die, and die it did, though not without a fight. Can you guess which side the majority would be on in a situation where the majority were being oppressed? What a stupid fucking point you're trying to make.
  - darkchasma 14y ago
    So the lives of thousands and thousands of men is better than say... a referendum?

darkchasma 14y ago

America? The war where the tyrannical overreaching government wanted to take away people's right to own other people and enforce more control over the states than the southern states wanted? Because the government; it won. (I'm pretty happy it did too!) :) So, yea... Great example.

notdrunkatall 14y ago
Yes, that America - where people were able to stand up for what they believed in and fight and die for that belief if they so chose. That is precisely the America that I am talking about. And do you know why the South lost? Because the majority of America was not on board with slavery. It was an idea whose time had come to die, and die it did, though not without a fight. Can you guess which side the majority would be on in a situation where the majority were being oppressed? What a stupid fucking point you're trying to make.
- darkchasma 14y ago
  So the lives of thousands and thousands of men is better than say... a referendum?