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Strong point you're making here. Pantone-calibrated monitors only make sense when you'll be doing actual printing. A webdesigner using Pantone shades for a we

Strong point you're making here. Pantone-calibrated monitors only make sense when you'll be doing actual printing. A webdesigner using Pantone shades for a website is just being a delusional fool.

coldtea 14y ago
With the quality of the monitors nowadays, and standard profiles, it's not that far off. We're not in the nineties, monitor technology wise.
- ciupicri 14y ago
  Actually, I've heard people saying that CRT screens were better than LCD when it came to colors. A couple of problems that LCD monitors might have: - low viewing angle - color shifting if they're using a TN or MVA/PVA panel [1] - loss of dark details for MVA/PVA panels [2] - 6 bits per color channel like the pretty recent Dell U2412M monitor for example [3] Sure if you're using a good (and expensive) monitor like Dell U2410 (comes precalibrated) or HP LP2475w you won't have these problems, but not everyone has them. Let's also not forget laptops which have crappy displays most of the time. [1] http://lcdtech.no-ip.info/en/tests/color-shift.htm http://lcdtech.no-ip.info/en/tests/color-shift.htm [2] http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034585910&amp%3bpostcount=7%253C http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034585910&amp%3bpos... [3] http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm
  - dredmorbius 14y ago
    A given CRT would be more consistent from different angles, but, having been there and tuned color on both CRTs and LCDs, the latter tend to be far more consistent between different displays. Also over time. There are still vendor differences, and Mac vs. Windows color temperature differs as well.
    - DanBC 14y ago
      > Mac vs. Windows color temperature differs as well. And what's the thing that makes something dark on Windows become really dark on a Mac? Is that gamma?
      - coldtea 14y ago
        Yes, Gamma. Though that has changed 2 OS versions ago -- new Macs come with the same gamma as PCs.
- dbittner1 14y ago
  I agree there are concerns with readability at certain LCD viewing angles. I often test my projects on a range of "run of the mill" monitors and more often than not I find that the contrast is horrid (at any angle) although it looks perfect on my setup. Thus, I usually increase styling contrast more than what I feel is necessary, in order to ensure an acceptable experience for all users.
- Fargren 14y ago
  I assume you live in Europe, the USA or maybe Canada. In much of the world, people are still using CRTs or ten-year-old LCDs in large amounts.
  - coldtea 14y ago
    I currently live in SE Asia. And everybody is using LCDs.
Silhouette 14y ago
A webdesigner using Pantone shades for a website is just being a delusional fool. Expecting everyone viewing your site to see a precisely matched colour, whether it's from a PMS chip or any other reference, is... optimistic. But that doesn't make starting from a client's standard Pantone branding colours (or rather, their official RGB equivalents) delusional. It won't get perfect results, but what would be a better choice?

Strong point you're making here. Pantone-calibrated monitors only make sense when you'll be doing actual printing. A webdesigner using Pantone shades for a website is just being a delusional fool.

coldtea 14y ago

With the quality of the monitors nowadays, and standard profiles, it's not that far off. We're not in the nineties, monitor technology wise.

ciupicri 14y ago
Actually, I've heard people saying that CRT screens were better than LCD when it came to colors. A couple of problems that LCD monitors might have: - low viewing angle - color shifting if they're using a TN or MVA/PVA panel [1] - loss of dark details for MVA/PVA panels [2] - 6 bits per color channel like the pretty recent Dell U2412M monitor for example [3] Sure if you're using a good (and expensive) monitor like Dell U2410 (comes precalibrated) or HP LP2475w you won't have these problems, but not everyone has them. Let's also not forget laptops which have crappy displays most of the time. [1] http://lcdtech.no-ip.info/en/tests/color-shift.htm http://lcdtech.no-ip.info/en/tests/color-shift.htm [2] http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034585910&amp%3bpostcount=7%253C http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1034585910&amp%3bpos... [3] http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm
- dredmorbius 14y ago
  A given CRT would be more consistent from different angles, but, having been there and tuned color on both CRTs and LCDs, the latter tend to be far more consistent between different displays. Also over time. There are still vendor differences, and Mac vs. Windows color temperature differs as well.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    > Mac vs. Windows color temperature differs as well. And what's the thing that makes something dark on Windows become really dark on a Mac? Is that gamma?
    - coldtea 14y ago
      Yes, Gamma. Though that has changed 2 OS versions ago -- new Macs come with the same gamma as PCs.
dbittner1 14y ago
I agree there are concerns with readability at certain LCD viewing angles. I often test my projects on a range of "run of the mill" monitors and more often than not I find that the contrast is horrid (at any angle) although it looks perfect on my setup. Thus, I usually increase styling contrast more than what I feel is necessary, in order to ensure an acceptable experience for all users.
Fargren 14y ago
I assume you live in Europe, the USA or maybe Canada. In much of the world, people are still using CRTs or ten-year-old LCDs in large amounts.
- coldtea 14y ago
  I currently live in SE Asia. And everybody is using LCDs.

Silhouette 14y ago

A webdesigner using Pantone shades for a website is just being a delusional fool. Expecting everyone viewing your site to see a precisely matched colour, whether it's from a PMS chip or any other reference, is... optimistic. But that doesn't make starting from a client's standard Pantone branding colours (or rather, their official RGB equivalents) delusional. It won't get perfect results, but what would be a better choice?