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It's great to see this on HN where there are literally fonts as low as 7pt being used... Everyone keeps saying that it's fine as long as zoom functions correct

by dgunn 14y ago

It's great to see this on HN where there are literally fonts as low as 7pt being used... Everyone keeps saying that it's fine as long as zoom functions correctly. Well it's also fine to use a font size widely accepted as readable. 7pt? Really? Why? Because zoom works? I know a lot of people who read HN that use style bot to increase the font size. To act like this isn't an issue seems really weird to me. Ctrl+- is there for people who really need the help seeing. It's actually being used to make up for bad designers.

rhizome 14y ago
And zoom does not function correctly on the default Android browser.
- jay_kyburz 14y ago
  And if I pinch zoom in I can't see the whole line.
  - jsnell 14y ago
    First do a pinch zoom, then double-tap to make the text reflow using the new size. (Unfortunately not in Chrome for Android, since it's too cool for usability. Should work on anything using Android's built-in webkit).
    - rhizome 14y ago
      For me and my Nexus 4, double-tap re-zooms to the width of the element tapped.
Kerrick 14y ago
Exactly. Zoom is there, so set a sane default like 14-18px, and allow those that want to see more at a smaller size to zoom out, don't make the majority zoom in.
lmm 14y ago
Experimentally I just tried ctrl--. HN looks great, now I can read even more than before. Put the default at a happy medium. That probably doesn't mean optimized for 24" displays.
metafunctor 14y ago
HN uses ridiculously small fonts. I need to press ⌘-+ three times to get to something reasonable that I can read without straining my eyes. Chrome remembers the setting, though, so it's not a big problem in practice.
1337p337 14y ago
I hadn't noticed that the font is so small here; I've set the minimum text size in all my browsers to something reasonable, which works fine in Webkit and Firefox, so that I don't get eye strain reading Wikipedia's ridiculously small text. The price paid is that sometimes a poorly designed site has text that spills out of a fixed-size box, but I can cope with that much more easily than with trying to read something that is 7px tall.

by dgunn 14y ago

rhizome 14y ago

And zoom does not function correctly on the default Android browser.

jay_kyburz 14y ago
And if I pinch zoom in I can't see the whole line.
- jsnell 14y ago
  First do a pinch zoom, then double-tap to make the text reflow using the new size. (Unfortunately not in Chrome for Android, since it's too cool for usability. Should work on anything using Android's built-in webkit).
  - rhizome 14y ago
    For me and my Nexus 4, double-tap re-zooms to the width of the element tapped.

Kerrick 14y ago

Exactly. Zoom is there, so set a sane default like 14-18px, and allow those that want to see more at a smaller size to zoom out, don't make the majority zoom in.

lmm 14y ago

Experimentally I just tried ctrl--. HN looks great, now I can read even more than before. Put the default at a happy medium. That probably doesn't mean optimized for 24" displays.

metafunctor 14y ago

HN uses ridiculously small fonts. I need to press ⌘-+ three times to get to something reasonable that I can read without straining my eyes. Chrome remembers the setting, though, so it's not a big problem in practice.

1337p337 14y ago

I hadn't noticed that the font is so small here; I've set the minimum text size in all my browsers to something reasonable, which works fine in Webkit and Firefox, so that I don't get eye strain reading Wikipedia's ridiculously small text. The price paid is that sometimes a poorly designed site has text that spills out of a fixed-size box, but I can cope with that much more easily than with trying to read something that is 7px tall.