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> It takes a very specific type of individual to work at home with the same efficiency as in an office. Does it? If I want to slack off I find it just as easy

> It takes a very specific type of individual to work at home with the same efficiency as in an office. Does it? If I want to slack off I find it just as easy in the office as I do at home. Heck I can even have music on at work or stream a video. Frankly for me I find home working far less distracting than work. Work is noisy, people are coming and going, there are calls all around me, at home it is just me in a dark office only interrupted by things aimed specifically at me (Skype, e-mail, etc). But this all boils down to the same old 1900s time mythos. You take intellectual workers and hold them to standards created for factory workers. The theory goes that if I work longer I am more efficient. If they restrict access to distractions then I am more efficient. If they can look over my shoulder I am more efficient. Personally I think this is all nonsense. The only way to track my efficiency is with milestones. The nice thing about milestones is that they are metrics which are flexible. If you fail to meet them you have a two way discussion about /why/.

waterlesscloud 14y ago
I find it MUCH easier to be efficient at home than in an office, particularly the dreadful open plan offices.
- jrogers65 14y ago
  I second this. I've been working out of hours a lot recently and find that my productivity is boosted dramatically when I am alone. Open plan offices need to go the way of the dinosaur.
- eropple 14y ago
  My optimal work environment is working with one or two coworkers in a coffee shop. I'm something like six times more productive (in terms of code/feature points/tasks) than working strictly remote (as I do most of the time). It's a reason why I'm looking to hire remote developers who are mostly geographically located near me--main office is in Nashville, I'm in Boston. WFH when you want, head into a coworking space when you want some company. Seems the best of both worlds to me.
- fzzzy 14y ago
  Open plan offices are the absolute worst. The worst.
elmuchoprez 14y ago
There's a lot of research suggesting that people overestimate their productivity in remote working environments and that in general, max productivity comes from small, in-person working environments.
- homosaur 14y ago
  My guess is almost all of this is totally dependent on the environments you are discussing. Some people have built very productive home work environments but most have not. Most people's office environment is probably better than what they have at home (maybe they have multiple monitors, supplies, a nice chair and desk, etc) but I don't think there's anything specific to office vs. home aside from the investment into productivity of that space. My guess is some of the folks on here hollering about being way better workers at home are right. They also probably spent several thousand bucks on a nice workspace, keyboard, extra monitor, stand up desk, whatever they need....
- jaggederest 14y ago
  Which one makes people happier with their lives?
  - blindhippo 14y ago
    Happiness is not a concern in this. In America, the pursuit is for money and profits for your employer - an employee's emotional wellbeing is irrelevant. Now be a good serf and pop your head back down into your cubicle.
- YZF 14y ago
  citation needed. I've seen research showing remote workers are more productive than on-site. http://www.stanford.edu/~nbloom/WFH.pdf http://www.stanford.edu/~nbloom/WFH.pdf
- stephencanon 14y ago
  The research that I've seen supporting small in-person environments has all been carried out with low-skill workers (typically undergrad volunteers) on tasks that do not require deep critical thought or creativity. It's not at all clear that it generalizes to the sort of work that a senior technical staff member does. I am not a researcher in the field, so its entirely possible that there is good work to support your claim, but all the research I've seen cited on HN in past discussions was crap or simply not relevant for the stated reason.
seanc722 14y ago
Same here. Not everyone can focus at home though. I know I can get a TON of work done at home compared to office, but my girlfriend cannot get anything done at home. Definitely depends on the person :)
stevewilhelm 14y ago
> Frankly for me I find home working far less distracting than work. Having young kids at home might change your opinion.

waterlesscloud 14y ago

I find it MUCH easier to be efficient at home than in an office, particularly the dreadful open plan offices.

jrogers65 14y ago
I second this. I've been working out of hours a lot recently and find that my productivity is boosted dramatically when I am alone. Open plan offices need to go the way of the dinosaur.
eropple 14y ago
My optimal work environment is working with one or two coworkers in a coffee shop. I'm something like six times more productive (in terms of code/feature points/tasks) than working strictly remote (as I do most of the time). It's a reason why I'm looking to hire remote developers who are mostly geographically located near me--main office is in Nashville, I'm in Boston. WFH when you want, head into a coworking space when you want some company. Seems the best of both worlds to me.
fzzzy 14y ago
Open plan offices are the absolute worst. The worst.

elmuchoprez 14y ago

There's a lot of research suggesting that people overestimate their productivity in remote working environments and that in general, max productivity comes from small, in-person working environments.

homosaur 14y ago
My guess is almost all of this is totally dependent on the environments you are discussing. Some people have built very productive home work environments but most have not. Most people's office environment is probably better than what they have at home (maybe they have multiple monitors, supplies, a nice chair and desk, etc) but I don't think there's anything specific to office vs. home aside from the investment into productivity of that space. My guess is some of the folks on here hollering about being way better workers at home are right. They also probably spent several thousand bucks on a nice workspace, keyboard, extra monitor, stand up desk, whatever they need....
jaggederest 14y ago
Which one makes people happier with their lives?
- blindhippo 14y ago
  Happiness is not a concern in this. In America, the pursuit is for money and profits for your employer - an employee's emotional wellbeing is irrelevant. Now be a good serf and pop your head back down into your cubicle.
YZF 14y ago
citation needed. I've seen research showing remote workers are more productive than on-site. http://www.stanford.edu/~nbloom/WFH.pdf http://www.stanford.edu/~nbloom/WFH.pdf
stephencanon 14y ago
The research that I've seen supporting small in-person environments has all been carried out with low-skill workers (typically undergrad volunteers) on tasks that do not require deep critical thought or creativity. It's not at all clear that it generalizes to the sort of work that a senior technical staff member does. I am not a researcher in the field, so its entirely possible that there is good work to support your claim, but all the research I've seen cited on HN in past discussions was crap or simply not relevant for the stated reason.

seanc722 14y ago

Same here. Not everyone can focus at home though. I know I can get a TON of work done at home compared to office, but my girlfriend cannot get anything done at home. Definitely depends on the person :)

stevewilhelm 14y ago

> Frankly for me I find home working far less distracting than work. Having young kids at home might change your opinion.