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Maybe you have reason to be afraid, but... > Charm simply does not work on underpaid meatheads Charm, or respect, works on people. Sorry, but when you call t

Maybe you have reason to be afraid, but... > Charm simply does not work on underpaid meatheads Charm, or respect, works on people. Sorry, but when you call them meatheads, it doesn't instill me with any confidence that you treated them with respect. The actions you describe support that fact (mostly through the way you describe it). Again, maybe you have a reason, but unless you are leaving critical things out, your attitude is what makes it impossible.

ugk 14y ago
Respect is earned. Treating another person with immediate decency is an honorable thing, but to give respect freely indicates a weakness that will be exploited. They were there to do a job, not have tea and chat about local charity.
- jasonlotito 14y ago
  > Treating another person with immediate decency is an honorable thing That's respect. > Respect is earned. You are confusing trust with respect. The only people that believe that respect is earned are people that need to an excuse to act like an asshole. Respect costs nothing.
d23 14y ago
Back and forths like are annoying and make this community look pedantic. You know damn well you sometimes deal with people who simply don't respond to your niceties. It's a fact of life, and the commenter was simply pointing that out. You don't know the situation. Why does it have to be his fault? Some people out there really are assholes and really do just want to take advantage of people.
- jasonlotito 14y ago
  > You know damn well you sometimes deal with people who simply don't respond to your niceties. People. > Again, maybe you have a reason, but unless you are leaving critical things out, your attitude is what makes it impossible. I said as much. > Why does it have to be his fault? It doesn't have to be. I said as much. > Back and forths like are annoying and make this community look pedantic. Commenting is not the way to handle this then. Downvote, or flag if you think it's not appropriate. Commenting, however, signifies what I said contributed to the discussion. If it didn't, then any reply would be equally worthless.
snprbob86 14y ago
The more important part of that sentence, which you elided, was the fact that there was a language communication barrier. I treated them with nothing but respect in person. I always joke around and make small talk with people in the service industry. I know how far that sort of thing can take you. However, I elected to use the word "meatheads" because it paints a picture: They were large men whom couldn't hold a conversation. Whether or not they could hold a conversation with native spanish speakers was immaterial to the story.
- jasonlotito 14y ago
  > The more important part of that sentence, which you elided, was the fact that there was a language communication barrier. It's not more important. You're attitude has nothing to do with language. > However, I elected to use the word "meatheads" because it paints a picture: They were large men whom couldn't hold a conversation. Meathead is means far more than that. If you used it merely to mean "people I can't speak with and are large," than you should know it's not what people associate with that word. It's much more derogatory. > I treated them with nothing but respect in person. At least the first time. At once you tell me that they can't communicate, but then you go on to imply that they understand the words you are writing out on paper (Perfect Condition). Something doesn't add up.

ugk 14y ago

Respect is earned. Treating another person with immediate decency is an honorable thing, but to give respect freely indicates a weakness that will be exploited. They were there to do a job, not have tea and chat about local charity.

jasonlotito 14y ago
> Treating another person with immediate decency is an honorable thing That's respect. > Respect is earned. You are confusing trust with respect. The only people that believe that respect is earned are people that need to an excuse to act like an asshole. Respect costs nothing.

d23 14y ago

Back and forths like are annoying and make this community look pedantic. You know damn well you sometimes deal with people who simply don't respond to your niceties. It's a fact of life, and the commenter was simply pointing that out. You don't know the situation. Why does it have to be his fault? Some people out there really are assholes and really do just want to take advantage of people.

jasonlotito 14y ago
> You know damn well you sometimes deal with people who simply don't respond to your niceties. People. > Again, maybe you have a reason, but unless you are leaving critical things out, your attitude is what makes it impossible. I said as much. > Why does it have to be his fault? It doesn't have to be. I said as much. > Back and forths like are annoying and make this community look pedantic. Commenting is not the way to handle this then. Downvote, or flag if you think it's not appropriate. Commenting, however, signifies what I said contributed to the discussion. If it didn't, then any reply would be equally worthless.

snprbob86 14y ago

The more important part of that sentence, which you elided, was the fact that there was a language communication barrier. I treated them with nothing but respect in person. I always joke around and make small talk with people in the service industry. I know how far that sort of thing can take you. However, I elected to use the word "meatheads" because it paints a picture: They were large men whom couldn't hold a conversation. Whether or not they could hold a conversation with native spanish speakers was immaterial to the story.

jasonlotito 14y ago
> The more important part of that sentence, which you elided, was the fact that there was a language communication barrier. It's not more important. You're attitude has nothing to do with language. > However, I elected to use the word "meatheads" because it paints a picture: They were large men whom couldn't hold a conversation. Meathead is means far more than that. If you used it merely to mean "people I can't speak with and are large," than you should know it's not what people associate with that word. It's much more derogatory. > I treated them with nothing but respect in person. At least the first time. At once you tell me that they can't communicate, but then you go on to imply that they understand the words you are writing out on paper (Perfect Condition). Something doesn't add up.