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> I COINED THE WORD "CYBERSPACE" IN 1981 Thats not something to be proud of..

by taproot 14y ago

prawn 14y ago
He didn't write "I coined the word "cyberspace" in 1981 and I'm really proud of that."
thisone 14y ago
I would say it is. I don't think you can talk the concept of the data driven world without looking at how Gibson and later cyber-punk authors imagined how it might be. We may think that the word "cyberspace" is a bit twee now, but it was an investigation about what the future might be. And it was a way to present that investigation to an audience who most likely had little to no frame of reference.
- kaybe 14y ago
  It's funny how the only ones using the word nowadays are governments and agencies. 'Cyber taskforce'? And you want me to take that serious?
  - thisone 14y ago
    Have you read Neuromancer? I'm not quite sure how what you mention is related to the use of the word cyberspace as Gibson used it.
    - kaybe 14y ago
      Yes, I have. As far as I know the word was not there before Gibson coined it, so I'm assuming that everyone using it today refer back to that, whether they know it or not. I haven't been around in the English-languaged internet back then, so I don't have firsthand information, but it seems to have been more commonly in use everywhere in the past (I remember some hacker's handbook telling me not to associate with people calling themselves 'cyberpunk', for instance). Nowadays the only mentions I see are from governments who plan taskforces to anwer "threats in the cyberspace", which, in my eyes, makes them look incompetent. I think it's interesting that they use that terminology though. </rant> How does that not relate?
- taproot 14y ago
  "Cyber" - a prefix used to let you know a shitty metaphor is coming. I'm sorry but I grew up in "cyberspace". There is no need to make the distinction between online and offline, for me and many others they are one in the same, we don't need cyber task forces to go after cyber criminals in order to uphold cyber laws inside cyber space. Its a stupid & redundant term, and coining it is not something to be proud of. > And it was a way to present that investigation to an audience who most likely had little to no frame of reference. That doesn't even make any sense. Lets tell people the internet is like a place they can run around in, that makes total sense yea? No, no it doesn't not in the fucking slightest. Have you seen Tron? This is what happens when idiots get a hold of shitty metaphors.

> I COINED THE WORD "CYBERSPACE" IN 1981 Thats not something to be proud of..

by taproot 14y ago

> I COINED THE WORD "CYBERSPACE" IN 1981 Thats not something to be proud of..

prawn 14y ago

He didn't write "I coined the word "cyberspace" in 1981 and I'm really proud of that."

thisone 14y ago

I would say it is. I don't think you can talk the concept of the data driven world without looking at how Gibson and later cyber-punk authors imagined how it might be. We may think that the word "cyberspace" is a bit twee now, but it was an investigation about what the future might be. And it was a way to present that investigation to an audience who most likely had little to no frame of reference.

kaybe 14y ago
It's funny how the only ones using the word nowadays are governments and agencies. 'Cyber taskforce'? And you want me to take that serious?
- thisone 14y ago
  Have you read Neuromancer? I'm not quite sure how what you mention is related to the use of the word cyberspace as Gibson used it.
  - kaybe 14y ago
    Yes, I have. As far as I know the word was not there before Gibson coined it, so I'm assuming that everyone using it today refer back to that, whether they know it or not. I haven't been around in the English-languaged internet back then, so I don't have firsthand information, but it seems to have been more commonly in use everywhere in the past (I remember some hacker's handbook telling me not to associate with people calling themselves 'cyberpunk', for instance). Nowadays the only mentions I see are from governments who plan taskforces to anwer "threats in the cyberspace", which, in my eyes, makes them look incompetent. I think it's interesting that they use that terminology though. </rant> How does that not relate?
taproot 14y ago
"Cyber" - a prefix used to let you know a shitty metaphor is coming. I'm sorry but I grew up in "cyberspace". There is no need to make the distinction between online and offline, for me and many others they are one in the same, we don't need cyber task forces to go after cyber criminals in order to uphold cyber laws inside cyber space. Its a stupid & redundant term, and coining it is not something to be proud of. > And it was a way to present that investigation to an audience who most likely had little to no frame of reference. That doesn't even make any sense. Lets tell people the internet is like a place they can run around in, that makes total sense yea? No, no it doesn't not in the fucking slightest. Have you seen Tron? This is what happens when idiots get a hold of shitty metaphors.