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So tomorrow everyone signs up for the free Hurricane IPv6 tunnel which is meant to be used by developers and administrators for system testing, HE can't respond

So tomorrow everyone signs up for the free Hurricane IPv6 tunnel which is meant to be used by developers and administrators for system testing, HE can't respond to the huge traffic and closes a free and extremely useful service? Thumbs down. If you want to watch youtube, get out and fight GEMA, don't go and abuse free services.

dfc 14y ago
"Hurricane Electric cant respond to the spike in traffic generated from somebody's blog post about their tunnelbroker service." Thats a riot, thanks for the laughs.
- andmarios 14y ago
  A high definition youtube video, transfers over 40MiB of data per minute. If 100.000 teenagers decide to test it (obviously not all of them concurrently), then yes, it will possibly come to the point where it isn't justified for HE to keep the service up. It doesn't need to bring their network down, it is enough to cost them more than what they get in return. Since the youtube pages mentioned are permanently banned from Germany, this could be a pretty sustainable spike.
  - dubfan 14y ago
    I don't have the stats on it but the increase in bandwidth from people using the tunnel to watch YouTube videos is likely a drop in the bucket compared to people leeching Usenet binaries all day off the free IPv6 Usenet servers. I understand your concern but I think you are underestimating how much usage the IPv6 tunnels get right now.
  - dfc 14y ago
    Are you familiar with HE's network? Take a look at Google/Youtube's biggest peer: http://bgp.he.net/AS15169#_peers6 http://bgp.he.net/AS15169#_peers6
    - 0x0 14y ago
      Biggest IPv6 peer, as I understand it, right? I'm not sure how much traffic that represents in total?
dubfan 14y ago
People are already using HE IPv6 tunnels to access binaries newsgroups on IPv6-only Usenet servers. I think they'll be OK.
- eli 14y ago
  Maybe a dumb question, but why would a Usenet server be IPv6 only?
  - wmf 14y ago
    To encourage adoption of IPv6 or as a not-too-expensive public service or just as a hack.
agwa 14y ago
> So tomorrow everyone signs up for the free Hurricane IPv6 tunnel which is meant to be used by developers and administrators for system testing The tunnelbroker service is for more than just system testing. It's meant to provide usable and stable IPv6 connectivity for people who don't have native IPv6. I've even hosted servers on it (nothing mission-critical though). You have a point that HE is not going to want to maintain it if it starts costing them too much, but note that they have a very vast global network (both IPv4 and IPv6) and can reach most of the Internet without paying for transit.

dfc 14y ago

"Hurricane Electric cant respond to the spike in traffic generated from somebody's blog post about their tunnelbroker service." Thats a riot, thanks for the laughs.

andmarios 14y ago
A high definition youtube video, transfers over 40MiB of data per minute. If 100.000 teenagers decide to test it (obviously not all of them concurrently), then yes, it will possibly come to the point where it isn't justified for HE to keep the service up. It doesn't need to bring their network down, it is enough to cost them more than what they get in return. Since the youtube pages mentioned are permanently banned from Germany, this could be a pretty sustainable spike.
- dubfan 14y ago
  I don't have the stats on it but the increase in bandwidth from people using the tunnel to watch YouTube videos is likely a drop in the bucket compared to people leeching Usenet binaries all day off the free IPv6 Usenet servers. I understand your concern but I think you are underestimating how much usage the IPv6 tunnels get right now.
- dfc 14y ago
  Are you familiar with HE's network? Take a look at Google/Youtube's biggest peer: http://bgp.he.net/AS15169#_peers6 http://bgp.he.net/AS15169#_peers6
  - 0x0 14y ago
    Biggest IPv6 peer, as I understand it, right? I'm not sure how much traffic that represents in total?

dubfan 14y ago

People are already using HE IPv6 tunnels to access binaries newsgroups on IPv6-only Usenet servers. I think they'll be OK.

eli 14y ago
Maybe a dumb question, but why would a Usenet server be IPv6 only?
- wmf 14y ago
  To encourage adoption of IPv6 or as a not-too-expensive public service or just as a hack.

agwa 14y ago

> So tomorrow everyone signs up for the free Hurricane IPv6 tunnel which is meant to be used by developers and administrators for system testing The tunnelbroker service is for more than just system testing. It's meant to provide usable and stable IPv6 connectivity for people who don't have native IPv6. I've even hosted servers on it (nothing mission-critical though). You have a point that HE is not going to want to maintain it if it starts costing them too much, but note that they have a very vast global network (both IPv4 and IPv6) and can reach most of the Internet without paying for transit.