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It's cool that we have Google capable of on-the-fly warning users when malware is detected on a popular website. You can complain a lot about Google's business

It's cool that we have Google capable of on-the-fly warning users when malware is detected on a popular website. You can complain a lot about Google's business model, but that's a damn valuable service. Probably saved a lot of computers today.

dmix 14y ago
> You can complain a lot about Google's business model Why would we do that? Gmail and google is essentially free with of the addition tasteful ad designs.
- de90 14y ago
  Because their business model benefits from knowing everything it can about you.
  - grumps 14y ago
    But you willingly allow them to, and in return they give you value back.
    - hackinthebochs 14y ago
      That's the thing, I highly doubt the majority of users are even aware of how much information Google has on its users. Even I as a knowledgeable programmer would probably be surprised at the depth of profiling they have done. And this isn't even considering any sort of machine learning analysis of the data that to extrapolate information not explicitly given. So no, "willingly allow them" is not an accurate description of the relationship.
      - dmix 14y ago
        There's chrome plugins to opt out of ad-tracking and you can delete your search history. Everything is optional. You don't have to be signed in or using cookies to search using Google. That's how I like my information privacy. My only issue is the lack of encryption in gmail (and email in general). Personal privacy is the users responsibility. There's a technology knowledge gap regardless if the user is using google or any other site. That isn't one websites responsibility.
      - grumps 14y ago
        I'm not really agreeing with their practice nor do I disagree with what you're saying. It's kind of a classic trojan horse. We will provide you with this awesome service, and get nothing in return. Nothing in life is truly free, it always come with a different motive. People can't turn down anything that's free. Especially people in the US Of course people should have a right to know what depths your analyzing them, but particularly in the US people don't seem to care as long as they don't have to pay for it.
frostmatthew 14y ago
Sadly many users don't heed the warnings. I would guess those users are also less likely to have everything fully patched and up to date.

dmix 14y ago

> You can complain a lot about Google's business model Why would we do that? Gmail and google is essentially free with of the addition tasteful ad designs.

de90 14y ago
Because their business model benefits from knowing everything it can about you.
- grumps 14y ago
  But you willingly allow them to, and in return they give you value back.
  - hackinthebochs 14y ago
    That's the thing, I highly doubt the majority of users are even aware of how much information Google has on its users. Even I as a knowledgeable programmer would probably be surprised at the depth of profiling they have done. And this isn't even considering any sort of machine learning analysis of the data that to extrapolate information not explicitly given. So no, "willingly allow them" is not an accurate description of the relationship.
    - dmix 14y ago
      There's chrome plugins to opt out of ad-tracking and you can delete your search history. Everything is optional. You don't have to be signed in or using cookies to search using Google. That's how I like my information privacy. My only issue is the lack of encryption in gmail (and email in general). Personal privacy is the users responsibility. There's a technology knowledge gap regardless if the user is using google or any other site. That isn't one websites responsibility.
    - grumps 14y ago
      I'm not really agreeing with their practice nor do I disagree with what you're saying. It's kind of a classic trojan horse. We will provide you with this awesome service, and get nothing in return. Nothing in life is truly free, it always come with a different motive. People can't turn down anything that's free. Especially people in the US Of course people should have a right to know what depths your analyzing them, but particularly in the US people don't seem to care as long as they don't have to pay for it.

frostmatthew 14y ago

Sadly many users don't heed the warnings. I would guess those users are also less likely to have everything fully patched and up to date.