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This and similar arguments in this thread are eerily similar to the arguments made against the first iPhone by the ./ crowd.

by oskarth 14y ago

rayiner 14y ago
You mean the iPad? I remember the iPhone having a very positive reaction. As a general rule, most of the time when people say "this is going to be a failure" they are right. The iPad is the exception, not the rule. And Apple has market-making ability that Google can only dream of.
- incongruity 14y ago
  Well, I mean, given that most new product launches and most new business ventures fail, of course the naysayers will be right more often. That doesn't mean they actually have insight into why products fail. So, that having been said and because this is the internet, I'll rush in with my probably foolish and ill-advised explanation for with this won't be a game changer: In this case, I think the price vs. capabilities will make people compare this unfavorably with other ultrabooks/macbook airs. For the price, there isn't much here that can't be copied, easily, and quickly – and if I really want the cloud connectivity, I can get that on my ultrabook. What's the unique value proposition in this product? I just don't see it being compelling – except that it's not an Apple product (don't get me wrong, I'm typing this on a Macbook, but I recognize that some people don't like the fruit vendor).
  - rayiner 14y ago
    > That doesn't mean they actually have insight into why products fail. I think it's gut reaction: I wouldn't use this product or recommend it to my friends. I think most of the time, that gut reaction is on point. Sometimes it's wrong, like the iPad, because you don't see the use for it until you try it, but that's the exception.
  - bostonvaulter2 14y ago
    >Well, I mean, given that most new product launches and most new business ventures fail, of course the naysayers will be right more often. That doesn't mean they actually have insight into why products fail. Here's a great article on that subject "How to be right 90% of the time, and why I'd rather be wrong": http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-be-right-90-of-time-and-why-id.html http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-be-right-90-...
nkohari 14y ago
Maybe you mean the iPod?

This and similar arguments in this thread are eerily similar to the arguments made against the first iPhone by the ./ crowd.

by oskarth 14y ago

This and similar arguments in this thread are eerily similar to the arguments made against the first iPhone by the ./ crowd.

rayiner 14y ago

You mean the iPad? I remember the iPhone having a very positive reaction. As a general rule, most of the time when people say "this is going to be a failure" they are right. The iPad is the exception, not the rule. And Apple has market-making ability that Google can only dream of.

incongruity 14y ago
Well, I mean, given that most new product launches and most new business ventures fail, of course the naysayers will be right more often. That doesn't mean they actually have insight into why products fail. So, that having been said and because this is the internet, I'll rush in with my probably foolish and ill-advised explanation for with this won't be a game changer: In this case, I think the price vs. capabilities will make people compare this unfavorably with other ultrabooks/macbook airs. For the price, there isn't much here that can't be copied, easily, and quickly – and if I really want the cloud connectivity, I can get that on my ultrabook. What's the unique value proposition in this product? I just don't see it being compelling – except that it's not an Apple product (don't get me wrong, I'm typing this on a Macbook, but I recognize that some people don't like the fruit vendor).
- rayiner 14y ago
  > That doesn't mean they actually have insight into why products fail. I think it's gut reaction: I wouldn't use this product or recommend it to my friends. I think most of the time, that gut reaction is on point. Sometimes it's wrong, like the iPad, because you don't see the use for it until you try it, but that's the exception.
- bostonvaulter2 14y ago
  >Well, I mean, given that most new product launches and most new business ventures fail, of course the naysayers will be right more often. That doesn't mean they actually have insight into why products fail. Here's a great article on that subject "How to be right 90% of the time, and why I'd rather be wrong": http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-be-right-90-of-time-and-why-id.html http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-be-right-90-...

nkohari 14y ago

Maybe you mean the iPod?