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They're in San Francisco building a phone company. Seriously, we at 2600hz continue to be heavily influenced by the counterculture; the ever-inquisitive minds

They're in San Francisco building a phone company. Seriously, we at 2600hz continue to be heavily influenced by the counterculture; the ever-inquisitive minds attracted to the largest network the world had ever seen. To think that the first transatlantic cable was laid in 1957. We've come even further from "what hath god wrought", but it's only getting crazier each day. The phone phreaks didn't go away, they're all over the world tinkering away.

Stratoscope 14y ago
> To think that the first transatlantic cable was laid in 1957. 1858, my friend, 1858. https://www.google.com/search?q=first+transatlantic+cable https://www.google.com/search?q=first+transatlantic+cable Additional reading... Mother Earth Mother Board: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html The Victorian Internet (one of my favorite books ever, highly recommended): https://www.google.com/search?q=the+victorian+internet https://www.google.com/search?q=the+victorian+internet
- Samuel_Michon 14y ago
  You're both correct, but Josh2600 was obviously referring to phone cables, not telegraph cables. "TAT-1 (Transatlantic No. 1) was the first submarine transatlantic telephone cable system. It was laid between Gallanach Bay, near Oban, Scotland and Clarenville, Newfoundland between 1955 and 1956." "The first transatlantic telegraph cable had been laid in 1858. It only operated for a month, but was replaced with a successful connection in 1866. A radio-based transatlantic telephone service was started in 1927. Although a telephone cable was discussed at that time, it was not practical until a number of technological advances arrived in the 1940s." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAT-1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAT-1
  - Stratoscope 14y ago
    Ah! Thank you for the correction.
    - josh2600 14y ago
      I'm actually just finishing "How the world was One" by Arthur C. Clarke. It's an absolutely fascinating look at undersea cabling. So in 1858, the wire that was laid across the Atlantic by Cyrus W. Field was essentially just that, not a cable at all. It was a few strands of copper coated in gutta-percha, and it was destroyed by an overzealous engineer jamming WAY too much voltage into the wire (he would later lose his job to Lord Kelvin of Degrees Kelvin fame). In 1865 they attempted to lay the cable again, but the cable snapped during the trip. It would snap 3 more times before they would finally connect Europe to North America. The Times of London had an amazing quote from the 1858 endeavor: "The Atlantic is dried up, and we become in reality as well as in wish one country.... The Atlantic Telegraph has half undone the Declaration of 1776, and has gone far to make us once again, in spite of ourselves, one people...." On another really interesting point: there were no telephone cables crossing the atlantic until 1957. So how did folks make calls to Europe? The answer was the Heaviside layer of the atmosphere and radio transmissions. Yes up until 1957, all calls to Europe were made by bouncing waves off of the ionosphere. I <3 Telecom.

Stratoscope 14y ago

> To think that the first transatlantic cable was laid in 1957. 1858, my friend, 1858. https://www.google.com/search?q=first+transatlantic+cable https://www.google.com/search?q=first+transatlantic+cable Additional reading... Mother Earth Mother Board: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html The Victorian Internet (one of my favorite books ever, highly recommended): https://www.google.com/search?q=the+victorian+internet https://www.google.com/search?q=the+victorian+internet

Samuel_Michon 14y ago
You're both correct, but Josh2600 was obviously referring to phone cables, not telegraph cables. "TAT-1 (Transatlantic No. 1) was the first submarine transatlantic telephone cable system. It was laid between Gallanach Bay, near Oban, Scotland and Clarenville, Newfoundland between 1955 and 1956." "The first transatlantic telegraph cable had been laid in 1858. It only operated for a month, but was replaced with a successful connection in 1866. A radio-based transatlantic telephone service was started in 1927. Although a telephone cable was discussed at that time, it was not practical until a number of technological advances arrived in the 1940s." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAT-1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAT-1
- Stratoscope 14y ago
  Ah! Thank you for the correction.
  - josh2600 14y ago
    I'm actually just finishing "How the world was One" by Arthur C. Clarke. It's an absolutely fascinating look at undersea cabling. So in 1858, the wire that was laid across the Atlantic by Cyrus W. Field was essentially just that, not a cable at all. It was a few strands of copper coated in gutta-percha, and it was destroyed by an overzealous engineer jamming WAY too much voltage into the wire (he would later lose his job to Lord Kelvin of Degrees Kelvin fame). In 1865 they attempted to lay the cable again, but the cable snapped during the trip. It would snap 3 more times before they would finally connect Europe to North America. The Times of London had an amazing quote from the 1858 endeavor: "The Atlantic is dried up, and we become in reality as well as in wish one country.... The Atlantic Telegraph has half undone the Declaration of 1776, and has gone far to make us once again, in spite of ourselves, one people...." On another really interesting point: there were no telephone cables crossing the atlantic until 1957. So how did folks make calls to Europe? The answer was the Heaviside layer of the atmosphere and radio transmissions. Yes up until 1957, all calls to Europe were made by bouncing waves off of the ionosphere. I <3 Telecom.