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I am not against your main point but I am sure that Microsoft will provide at least 110% of funding if Google pulled their "funding".

natrius 14y ago
If Microsoft were willing to provide pay as much or more, why aren't they doing it already to make Bing the default search engine?
- batiudrami 14y ago
  My guess would be that if the offer is similar, Mozilla would be inclined to stick with Google. I'm sure you know how irritating it is to realise you missed a checkbox and now your homepage and default search are set to Bing - it's probably a user experience Mozilla was happy to avoid. Plus, there are probably some advantages to having Google 'on side'.
- cooldeal 14y ago
  Perhaps they had made an offer. We never would know. We don't even know the details of the Mozilla-Google deal. For all the openness that Google and Mozilla appear to proffer, the agreement between them is a secret.
  - lkbm 14y ago
    Mozilla has been saying for years that they will use the best engine, and take that engine's money if it's available. If Bing were clearly better than Google, they'd switch and be taking Microsoft's money.
    - jonknee 14y ago
      They have said that during the time they are being offered the most money by the best search engine. That's easy. But Google keeps paying more which means Mozilla is after the highest bidder.
      - asadotzler 14y ago
        That is not how Mozilla's decision making works. There's considerably more to it than such simple economics. As a non-profit, we are here to create a public good. It's actually goods, plural, and services too. Firefox and other Mozilla products and services exist to promote the Mozilla mission, not to enrich the Mozilla organization. Yes. Sustainability is certainly a factor in some of our decision making. Mozilla would be foolish to ignore significant opportunities to increase its mission impact. But revenue for sustainability is not the sole or even the dominant factor in any major product decision at Mozilla.
- bad_user 14y ago
  If you're in the US, you may not notice it, but Bing is plain awful for international users. Google has spent a considerable amount of resources improving their engine to serve results based on your location and Google's Search Engine is clearly the best by a long shot. This is also why I'm not using DuckDuckGo.
  - elviseno 14y ago
    Agreed. If Bing could match google's accuracy in scholar paper/reference searching I'd not mind to use it.
    - ams6110 14y ago
      Bing on the other hand is much better than Google if you are searching for technical info on Microsoft products.
- eslaught 14y ago
  This product already exists, in at least proof of concept form: http://www.firefoxwithbing.com/ http://www.firefoxwithbing.com/ I think this is sufficient to show that they're at least thinking about it.
  - unbeli 14y ago
    "Sorry, this download is not supported by your system." Meh.

natrius 14y ago

If Microsoft were willing to provide pay as much or more, why aren't they doing it already to make Bing the default search engine?

batiudrami 14y ago
My guess would be that if the offer is similar, Mozilla would be inclined to stick with Google. I'm sure you know how irritating it is to realise you missed a checkbox and now your homepage and default search are set to Bing - it's probably a user experience Mozilla was happy to avoid. Plus, there are probably some advantages to having Google 'on side'.
cooldeal 14y ago
Perhaps they had made an offer. We never would know. We don't even know the details of the Mozilla-Google deal. For all the openness that Google and Mozilla appear to proffer, the agreement between them is a secret.
- lkbm 14y ago
  Mozilla has been saying for years that they will use the best engine, and take that engine's money if it's available. If Bing were clearly better than Google, they'd switch and be taking Microsoft's money.
  - jonknee 14y ago
    They have said that during the time they are being offered the most money by the best search engine. That's easy. But Google keeps paying more which means Mozilla is after the highest bidder.
    - asadotzler 14y ago
      That is not how Mozilla's decision making works. There's considerably more to it than such simple economics. As a non-profit, we are here to create a public good. It's actually goods, plural, and services too. Firefox and other Mozilla products and services exist to promote the Mozilla mission, not to enrich the Mozilla organization. Yes. Sustainability is certainly a factor in some of our decision making. Mozilla would be foolish to ignore significant opportunities to increase its mission impact. But revenue for sustainability is not the sole or even the dominant factor in any major product decision at Mozilla.
bad_user 14y ago
If you're in the US, you may not notice it, but Bing is plain awful for international users. Google has spent a considerable amount of resources improving their engine to serve results based on your location and Google's Search Engine is clearly the best by a long shot. This is also why I'm not using DuckDuckGo.
- elviseno 14y ago
  Agreed. If Bing could match google's accuracy in scholar paper/reference searching I'd not mind to use it.
  - ams6110 14y ago
    Bing on the other hand is much better than Google if you are searching for technical info on Microsoft products.
eslaught 14y ago
This product already exists, in at least proof of concept form: http://www.firefoxwithbing.com/ http://www.firefoxwithbing.com/ I think this is sufficient to show that they're at least thinking about it.
- unbeli 14y ago
  "Sorry, this download is not supported by your system." Meh.