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I think the point is, other systems have now emerged that can reasonably claim to represent the cutting edge of simplicity and ease. Rails held that distinction
by lkrubner 14y ago
I think the point is, other systems have now emerged that can reasonably claim to represent the cutting edge of simplicity and ease. Rails held that distinction for several years, it was the reference point people used to criticize or praise other systems. But Rails is no longer the clear leader in ease of use or sophistication of 3rd party libraries. In response to Rails, lots of new languages and frameworks emerged, all of which offer a lot of new ideas about what the cutting edge is in 2013.
- aantix 14y agoCurious, what other web dev frameworks offer a unified stack (ORM, deployment, dependency management, testing, project structuring)?
- Thieum22 14y agoASP.NET MVC + Entity Framework + NuGet could be a candidate. At least it's going in this direction.
- taligent 14y agoPlay and Grails are two on the Java side.
- jshen 14y agoIt's been a while since I looked at grails, but it was clearly worse when I looked. Some examples, rendering an action as json, XML, or HTML. Using mongo. Etc.
- programminggeek 14y agoOffering all of those things is nice, but tightly coupling them all together is where Rails goes wrong many/much of the time.
- jshen 14y agoMany of them aren't tightly coupled. In fact, I'd say rails is better on this front than anything comparable. Is it easier to use Mongo with Rails or Django? What about couchbase? Rails makes it very easy to make an ORM work well with rails and to replace ActiveRecord with it. Better yet, what framework do you believe offers all of these things and does a significantly better job at decoupling than rails?
- douglasisshiny 14y agoI don't doubt that this is the case, but can you mention some of the language / frameworks which have done this? (I'm not being critical; I'm really just curious and would like to learn about different frameworks).