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"When the Galaxy Note came out it was bashed by the Apple-sphere with incredible intensity. That should have been a good hint that it would do well : very well.

by sarvinc 14y ago

"When the Galaxy Note came out it was bashed by the Apple-sphere with incredible intensity. That should have been a good hint that it would do well : very well." Plenty of things are bashed by the Apple-sphere, what ever that is, and those products don't do well. Since you've turned this into some weird Android vs. iOS thing I'd like to point out that very few manufacturers, of handsets/tablets running Android, are doing well. "Larger phones have been bashed with ferocity. Until the iPhone 5, of course, when (I suppose), it was done "right"." So what's new here? I still don't like larger phones and probably never will. I'm actually not sure why you wrote this or what conclusion you feel it supports. "Smaller tablets were bashed with ferocity. Until the iPad Mini, of course, when it was done "right"." No source cited so I'd just like to point out that the actual tablets were being bashed not the size. "We've seen the same thing over and over again. It can never be that Apple is behind or isn't moving quickly enough -- it has to be spun that they're ahead by moving so slowly." It also can never be that Apple is doing just fine. Honestly I'm not even sure what you mean by 'behind.'

corresation 14y ago
what ever that is You doubt the existence of something, yet make firm statements about it. That is an odd choice of statements (where you essentially want to have it both ways). There is an industry of pundits and mouthpieces who exist on the backs of Apple's fanbase, with John Gruber and Philip Elmer-Dewitt being two of the most obvious: They make a living essentially heralding whatever Apple does, linking to others who do the same, and deriding and belittling those who do otherwise. This does not exist for most other industries (is there even an Android equivalent to John Gruber? I mean, there are probably people trying to be, but most people don't need that confirmation of their likes so such a tactic is simply unprofitable in most other realms). Since you've turned this into some weird Android vs. iOS thing I'd like to point out that very few manufacturers, of handsets/tablets running Android, are doing well. What a rejoinder. Few handset/tablet makers running anything but iOS are doing well, aside from Samsung. Which, of course, is the topic of this discussion. No source cited so I'd just like to point out that the actual tablets were being bashed not the size. That is the revisionist history to try to make lemonade out of lemons. Only when Steve made his infamous statement Android had already (for years) had a density-independent layout structure that adapts screen elements to size (quite unlike iOS, if that contrast needs to be made). The argument was utter nonsense, and it remains nonsense.
- sarvinc 14y ago
  It seemed pedantic to act like I couldn't make a leap of imagination. Seriously, can you define the Apple-sphere in any meaningful way? I made a best guess; but wanted to make it clear that all I did was guess; i.e. I don't actually know, for sure, what was being talked about. This is important because my guess probably isn't correct and if it's not correct then my point may or may not be correct. I might not agree with what was posted but I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt.
ZeroGravitas 14y ago
"No source cited so I'd just like to point out that the actual tablets were being bashed not the size." Guess the source: "Well, one could increase the resolution of the display to make up for some of the difference. It is meaningless, unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of the present size. Apple's done extensive user-testing on touch interfaces over many years, and we really understand this stuff. There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick, or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps."

by sarvinc 14y ago

corresation 14y ago

what ever that is You doubt the existence of something, yet make firm statements about it. That is an odd choice of statements (where you essentially want to have it both ways). There is an industry of pundits and mouthpieces who exist on the backs of Apple's fanbase, with John Gruber and Philip Elmer-Dewitt being two of the most obvious: They make a living essentially heralding whatever Apple does, linking to others who do the same, and deriding and belittling those who do otherwise. This does not exist for most other industries (is there even an Android equivalent to John Gruber? I mean, there are probably people trying to be, but most people don't need that confirmation of their likes so such a tactic is simply unprofitable in most other realms). Since you've turned this into some weird Android vs. iOS thing I'd like to point out that very few manufacturers, of handsets/tablets running Android, are doing well. What a rejoinder. Few handset/tablet makers running anything but iOS are doing well, aside from Samsung. Which, of course, is the topic of this discussion. No source cited so I'd just like to point out that the actual tablets were being bashed not the size. That is the revisionist history to try to make lemonade out of lemons. Only when Steve made his infamous statement Android had already (for years) had a density-independent layout structure that adapts screen elements to size (quite unlike iOS, if that contrast needs to be made). The argument was utter nonsense, and it remains nonsense.

sarvinc 14y ago
It seemed pedantic to act like I couldn't make a leap of imagination. Seriously, can you define the Apple-sphere in any meaningful way? I made a best guess; but wanted to make it clear that all I did was guess; i.e. I don't actually know, for sure, what was being talked about. This is important because my guess probably isn't correct and if it's not correct then my point may or may not be correct. I might not agree with what was posted but I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt.

ZeroGravitas 14y ago

"No source cited so I'd just like to point out that the actual tablets were being bashed not the size." Guess the source: "Well, one could increase the resolution of the display to make up for some of the difference. It is meaningless, unless your tablet also includes sandpaper, so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of the present size. Apple's done extensive user-testing on touch interfaces over many years, and we really understand this stuff. There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick, or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps."