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Is there any evidence (eg: a direct quote) [1] that Steve Jobs actually "hated Java"? I'm tired of this kind of sloppy nonsensical, and actually, dishonest att
by nirvana 14y ago
Is there any evidence (eg: a direct quote) [1] that Steve Jobs actually "hated Java"?
I'm tired of this kind of sloppy nonsensical, and actually, dishonest attribution of opinions to Steve Jobs. It was bad enough when he was alive.
Jobs clearly talked about how first class support for Java in the Mac was important back when OS X came about. He clearly wanted "write once, run anywhere" to work. I once met one of the people whose job it was at Apple was to make Java look mac like in the UI. Obviously they put a lot of effort into supporting Java.
While Java may not have achieved what they hoped, it's absurd to just assume that "Steve Jobs hated Java" because its convenient for the reporter, and let's be honest, gives the reporter an excuse to put Job's name in the title.
[1] The quote in the title talks about the weight of it, and how it is a drag, but doesn't express any hatred. Dishonest characterizations like this (calling it "hatred") is not just sloppy writing, it shows a lack of integrity. It's why we have uninformed people thinking google is "open" while Apple is "closed" - a lot of reporters saying that who know nothing about the actual situation (which isn't that much different between them.)
- leephillips 14y agoI think part of the problem is the confusion in the article among several things: the Java language, the JVM, and the Java browser plugin. It seems to me that Jobs' comments about something heavy that nobody uses are directed toward the plugin (running Java applets in the browser) and are therefore justifiable. Not much to do with the JVM and the language on the desktop, which OSX supports reasonably well.
- taproot 14y agoIt's times like these I wish I had enough karma to downvote. Not you, but this article. Typing for pagerank.