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Obvious troll is unbelievably obvious. Go ahead and give me something that Samsung innovated, in a vacuum, without looking at other products and without help fr

Obvious troll is unbelievably obvious. Go ahead and give me something that Samsung innovated, in a vacuum, without looking at other products and without help from Google.

neya 14y ago
I am not talking on behalf of Samsung, I'm simply talking against Apple. I own HTC Android phones, they've had a multitude of features well-before Apple debuted their 'magically life-changing revolutionary' iOS 6. As for Samsung, without Google's help, I think there is a reason why they're #1 on the international display market. Do you know how many companies use Samsung's displays? Even my Sony Vaio and my Sony bravia use their displays under the hood. The display segment is where one simply cannot sustain without innovating. Samsung's leadership in displays are evidence that they can innovate alone, which is the answer to the question you've asked me. I bet the display with which you're reading HN now, uses Samsung's technology in some form or the other - That's the depth of their remarkable engineering and innovation. Can you say the same for Apple? They're just re-packagers. Someone else manufactures something for them and then they just add their logo and increase the prices by 4x, which you purchase and don't want to feel bad for, by labeling rational arguments as trolls on a public forum. Instead of blatantly labeling me as a troll, I'd love to see you provide evidence in support of Apple's 'innovation'. Don't talk about profits, just pure innovation. You'd be surprised how little you have to talk in favor of (Apple), when it comes to innovation.
- marknutter 14y ago
  Come on, now, all innovation is iterative. Nobody can claim "true innovation." There will always be someone who did it first but history will remember those who did it best.
bryanlarsen 14y ago
Why don't you ask Apple? They buy a huge amount of stuff from Samsung. Does the retina screen count as innovation? If so who is the innovator: Apple for realizing that it should be used in phones, tablets and computers, or Samsung for designing and making it and working on the fundamental process innovations required? Answer: both. Both companies are obviously hugely innovative. Arguing which is more innovative is just fanboi dick waving.

Obvious troll is unbelievably obvious. Go ahead and give me something that Samsung innovated, in a vacuum, without looking at other products and without help from Google.

neya 14y ago

I am not talking on behalf of Samsung, I'm simply talking against Apple. I own HTC Android phones, they've had a multitude of features well-before Apple debuted their 'magically life-changing revolutionary' iOS 6. As for Samsung, without Google's help, I think there is a reason why they're #1 on the international display market. Do you know how many companies use Samsung's displays? Even my Sony Vaio and my Sony bravia use their displays under the hood. The display segment is where one simply cannot sustain without innovating. Samsung's leadership in displays are evidence that they can innovate alone, which is the answer to the question you've asked me. I bet the display with which you're reading HN now, uses Samsung's technology in some form or the other - That's the depth of their remarkable engineering and innovation. Can you say the same for Apple? They're just re-packagers. Someone else manufactures something for them and then they just add their logo and increase the prices by 4x, which you purchase and don't want to feel bad for, by labeling rational arguments as trolls on a public forum. Instead of blatantly labeling me as a troll, I'd love to see you provide evidence in support of Apple's 'innovation'. Don't talk about profits, just pure innovation. You'd be surprised how little you have to talk in favor of (Apple), when it comes to innovation.

marknutter 14y ago
Come on, now, all innovation is iterative. Nobody can claim "true innovation." There will always be someone who did it first but history will remember those who did it best.

bryanlarsen 14y ago

Why don't you ask Apple? They buy a huge amount of stuff from Samsung. Does the retina screen count as innovation? If so who is the innovator: Apple for realizing that it should be used in phones, tablets and computers, or Samsung for designing and making it and working on the fundamental process innovations required? Answer: both. Both companies are obviously hugely innovative. Arguing which is more innovative is just fanboi dick waving.