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Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button. I understand that it's not exactly easy for them, but it's becoming a bit boring how

Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button. I understand that it's not exactly easy for them, but it's becoming a bit boring how they keep announcing new "products" with no way of actually purchasing them. Couldn't they have waited for a year or so for this to be ready to ship and then launch it? At the very least it'd be good to have "Available to buy in July, 2013" or whatever.

marcoceppi 14y ago
They're releasing images for this and the phone in a week.
- kaolinite 14y ago
  Then why not wait a week and announce it then?
  - cryptoz 14y ago
    There are plenty of reasons. Virtually no technology / OS vendor announces and ships on the same day. Apple gives a few weeks lead time between announcement and shipping too.
    - kaolinite 14y ago
      There's a big difference between providing the OS to download and shipping a product. I wouldn't expect to be able to buy it and have it 2 days later, but a pre-order option would be good.
  - marcoceppi 14y ago
    Sorry, they're releasing images in two days. Seriously, though! Not everything has to be instant. They're putting themselves out to gauge interest and probably lure OEM vendors to their booth at MWC.
    - fusiongyro 14y ago
      "and probably lure OEM vendors to their booth at MWC" This is the whole problem, isn't it? When Google wants to make a device, they call up Asus or whomever and have it made. When Apple wants to make a device, they hire folks to do it, and those folks call the manufacturers for the parts. Why does Canonical expect the OEM to call them first on the basis of pretty mockups?
donniezazen 14y ago
It's been picked by all major media outlets. Canonical is trying to create a buzz so major vendors start paying attention to it. I think they have been really successful in doing that. If Ubuntu comes with 10 basic apps that I use let's say Chrome browser and an ePUB reader. I would totally switch.
- fusiongyro 14y ago
  Why should major vendors take this more seriously than consumers? It's not like they can buy the product either. If I were Google or Apple, I'd be a lot more worried about a cool Kickstarter than a vaporous brochure site. Three kids with passion trying to get funding are worth more to me than a dozen graphic artists at Canonical with no idea how electricity works. I'm happy for them to prove me wrong, but this is what, the third or fourth thing they've "announced" with absolutely no idea how they're going to produce? Saying "I don't know how to build this, but I intend to" is a lot better than "If you call me with hardware, I'd love to art direct you." Why would anybody capable of manufacturing a device bother calling them rather than just making a shitty Android device on their own?
  - donniezazen 14y ago
    Major vendors have capability to make hardware and not consumers. Consumers are end goal but not where it begins. How preposterous of you! They are going to release images in 2 days. What do you expect them to do come to your house and give you a lecture on electricity. You seem to know everything about manufacturers and Canonical and their internal communication. Of course Canonical is talking to all parties. Do you want them to include you in the discussion? I like your negative attitude.
    - fusiongyro 14y ago
      > Consumers are end goal but not where it begins. That's exactly why I don't understand why they continue to produce marketing material rather than actually getting the work done to make a product. > Of course Canonical is talking to all parties. Do you want them to include you in the discussion? No, but they seem to be mainly interested in including me, rather than people who might get it done. Is it so hard for a company to call another company? How many years before there was a Nexus tablet did Google tell us they were going to make one? Did their marketing ever send you the message "hey, we don't know anybody at Asus, but if you do, would you mind sending them by our booth at the next convention? Thanks!"
azernik 14y ago
This seems to be aimed at developers more than at end users - note that big segment at the end where they plug the SDK (it was the same with Ubuntu Mobile). Right now it looks like they're trying to get apps written so that the platform is actually usable when released to consumers.
hollerith 14y ago
>Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button. -- nor a "Download" button for hackers wanting to install an alpha version on their Nexus tablet. I looked unsucessfully for a Download button on the OP, the "developer" page that it links to and http://www.ubuntu.com/download http://www.ubuntu.com/download.

marcoceppi 14y ago

They're releasing images for this and the phone in a week.

kaolinite 14y ago
Then why not wait a week and announce it then?
- cryptoz 14y ago
  There are plenty of reasons. Virtually no technology / OS vendor announces and ships on the same day. Apple gives a few weeks lead time between announcement and shipping too.
  - kaolinite 14y ago
    There's a big difference between providing the OS to download and shipping a product. I wouldn't expect to be able to buy it and have it 2 days later, but a pre-order option would be good.
- marcoceppi 14y ago
  Sorry, they're releasing images in two days. Seriously, though! Not everything has to be instant. They're putting themselves out to gauge interest and probably lure OEM vendors to their booth at MWC.
  - fusiongyro 14y ago
    "and probably lure OEM vendors to their booth at MWC" This is the whole problem, isn't it? When Google wants to make a device, they call up Asus or whomever and have it made. When Apple wants to make a device, they hire folks to do it, and those folks call the manufacturers for the parts. Why does Canonical expect the OEM to call them first on the basis of pretty mockups?

donniezazen 14y ago

It's been picked by all major media outlets. Canonical is trying to create a buzz so major vendors start paying attention to it. I think they have been really successful in doing that. If Ubuntu comes with 10 basic apps that I use let's say Chrome browser and an ePUB reader. I would totally switch.

fusiongyro 14y ago
Why should major vendors take this more seriously than consumers? It's not like they can buy the product either. If I were Google or Apple, I'd be a lot more worried about a cool Kickstarter than a vaporous brochure site. Three kids with passion trying to get funding are worth more to me than a dozen graphic artists at Canonical with no idea how electricity works. I'm happy for them to prove me wrong, but this is what, the third or fourth thing they've "announced" with absolutely no idea how they're going to produce? Saying "I don't know how to build this, but I intend to" is a lot better than "If you call me with hardware, I'd love to art direct you." Why would anybody capable of manufacturing a device bother calling them rather than just making a shitty Android device on their own?
- donniezazen 14y ago
  Major vendors have capability to make hardware and not consumers. Consumers are end goal but not where it begins. How preposterous of you! They are going to release images in 2 days. What do you expect them to do come to your house and give you a lecture on electricity. You seem to know everything about manufacturers and Canonical and their internal communication. Of course Canonical is talking to all parties. Do you want them to include you in the discussion? I like your negative attitude.
  - fusiongyro 14y ago
    > Consumers are end goal but not where it begins. That's exactly why I don't understand why they continue to produce marketing material rather than actually getting the work done to make a product. > Of course Canonical is talking to all parties. Do you want them to include you in the discussion? No, but they seem to be mainly interested in including me, rather than people who might get it done. Is it so hard for a company to call another company? How many years before there was a Nexus tablet did Google tell us they were going to make one? Did their marketing ever send you the message "hey, we don't know anybody at Asus, but if you do, would you mind sending them by our booth at the next convention? Thanks!"

azernik 14y ago

This seems to be aimed at developers more than at end users - note that big segment at the end where they plug the SDK (it was the same with Ubuntu Mobile). Right now it looks like they're trying to get apps written so that the platform is actually usable when released to consumers.

hollerith 14y ago

>Yet another announcement by Canonical that isn't backed by a "Buy" button. -- nor a "Download" button for hackers wanting to install an alpha version on their Nexus tablet. I looked unsucessfully for a Download button on the OP, the "developer" page that it links to and http://www.ubuntu.com/download http://www.ubuntu.com/download.