Indeed. I think it's highly improbable that you undervalue business guys. That is not my claim. My claim is that simplistic readings of your more subtle point

Indeed. I think it's highly improbable that you undervalue business guys. That is not my claim. My claim is that simplistic readings of your more subtle points (done by some in the News.YC community) about business result in the type of attitude I described. I'll edit this comment with examples in a few minutes. Perhaps one of the more relevant essays is "What Business Can Learn From Open Source". The average workplace is accurately described as torture, however only a small percentage of business people (the ones in charge) are responsible for perpetuating such a stupid waste of resources. Not all or even half of business people are like this. You certainly don't claim this is so, but News.YC does exhibit an anti-business bias. There was a really good comment thread from the perspective of a business person posted recently about this, but I can't seem to find it. There's a really interesting larger discussion here, but I feel the lack of assembling evidence on my part is constraining.