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99.9% uptime is nice ( where I'm at right now has had server outages more often than gmail has had). Having a decent spam filter is nice (I've had loads of fal

by rtpg 14y ago

99.9% uptime is nice ( where I'm at right now has had server outages more often than gmail has had). Having a decent spam filter is nice (I've had loads of false positives in things I've tried elsewhere). There is the idea that google/MS could just fall off the face of the earth, and then I look pretty stupid having loads of things connected to that account. That bothers me enough to where important things get thrown onto an email adress I'm pretty sure won't disappear for a while. As to reading my mail... robots are reading my mail. This is a pretty valid "Chinese room" in my opinion. Nobody's actually understanding my mail, what do I care. The ads are usually pretty relevant to things I need though (I've clicked on more of the text ads than I would ilke to admit).

belorn 14y ago
> 99.9% uptime is nice Pick a random (not broken) piece of hardware. Install debian stable on it with base install + postfix + roundcube. Configure: grey listing, black listing, and auto-update (relative easy, and there is a bunch of tutorials if needed). Leave it alone until once every 2-3 year where it will need a aptitude update, aptitude upgrade. It will run as long it has power and network connectivity. If you are a company and either the power or network is down, email is unlikely to be high on the priority list. Spam: ~0. Might get one every full moon or so. After 5-10 years it might get a bit worse, but adding SpamAssassin tend to get rid of it. As for Chinese rooms, do they leak information? Do they give out mail if asked by someone with money/power? Sure, one can say "I got nothing to hide so what do I care", but then that's what all email then must be. You can never again say: "This email is private and mine. I and only I have control over it". If you are a doctor, lawyer or any person dealing with private information, then it mean that any email given to you are defacto public.
- fps 14y ago
  Roundcube is not gmail. The gmail interface is the killer feature that no one has been able to replicate, and it's the thing that pulled me back after 6 months of hosting my own email. I was in gmail withdrawal, and seriously considered not having an email account instead of dealing with roundcube, mutt and K9 anymore. Roundcube's interface is a great replica of Apple mail from 10 years ago, but it's seriously painful to use compared to the comfort and the features of the gmail interface.

by rtpg 14y ago

belorn 14y ago

> 99.9% uptime is nice Pick a random (not broken) piece of hardware. Install debian stable on it with base install + postfix + roundcube. Configure: grey listing, black listing, and auto-update (relative easy, and there is a bunch of tutorials if needed). Leave it alone until once every 2-3 year where it will need a aptitude update, aptitude upgrade. It will run as long it has power and network connectivity. If you are a company and either the power or network is down, email is unlikely to be high on the priority list. Spam: ~0. Might get one every full moon or so. After 5-10 years it might get a bit worse, but adding SpamAssassin tend to get rid of it. As for Chinese rooms, do they leak information? Do they give out mail if asked by someone with money/power? Sure, one can say "I got nothing to hide so what do I care", but then that's what all email then must be. You can never again say: "This email is private and mine. I and only I have control over it". If you are a doctor, lawyer or any person dealing with private information, then it mean that any email given to you are defacto public.

fps 14y ago
Roundcube is not gmail. The gmail interface is the killer feature that no one has been able to replicate, and it's the thing that pulled me back after 6 months of hosting my own email. I was in gmail withdrawal, and seriously considered not having an email account instead of dealing with roundcube, mutt and K9 anymore. Roundcube's interface is a great replica of Apple mail from 10 years ago, but it's seriously painful to use compared to the comfort and the features of the gmail interface.