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You have got to be kidding me. Excuse my French but this is an epic ripoff. A quick Google search and a free Evernote account and in a half hour you can get a m

You have got to be kidding me. Excuse my French but this is an epic ripoff. A quick Google search and a free Evernote account and in a half hour you can get a monster swipe file filled with choice copywriting tutorials and examples. There is real gold out there for free, and if you absolutely must spend your money frivolously, there are copywriting books on the Kindle for under $5 that will give you everything you need and more.

boothead 14y ago
What part do you feel is a rip off exactly? This tutorial or ConvertKit itself? I believe that the point of ConverKit is to simplify and streamline the process of creating a landing page and drip email campaign. It seems like a pretty good proposition to me! I personally found the step by step process in this little walk though very valuable - especially as I'm writing a sales page myself at the moment.
brador 14y ago
Got links?
- thoughtcriminal 14y ago
  The Landing Page Makeover Clinic is amazing, and one of the first places I'd start. Also http://copyblogger.com/landing-pages/ http://copyblogger.com/landing-pages/
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digitalengineer 14y ago
You are right, but for a lot of people it doesn't matter if it's available for free somewhere. Right now, right here is his stuff from 'a' to 'z' with examples. Most people just can't find the good stuff and are in a hurry. His article puts a lot of what they're looking for in one place and he put a great deal of effort in to it.
- thoughtcriminal 14y ago
  And I'm saying a fool and his money are soon parted.
  - nathanbarry 14y ago
    This is just a free article on how I (with help) wrote and rewrote a landing page. I'm not selling a course on copywriting. Just sharing my experience.
    - digitalengineer 14y ago
      Your article was a very good read and I liked the design-steps with the reasons why you did what/when. Thank you!
    - vicbrooker 14y ago
      A free article that is about a service that helps to improve conversion rates by making it easier to provide free articles. Which finishes with a call to action to convert the reader to the service = mind blown/Startup Inception. I personally think seeing the iterations and tweaks was fantastic. Seeing both the process in both text and visuals was where the gold was for me. The only thing I was thinking when I saw the final/current design was that it would sense to me for the reader to scroll (slightly) to be able read "Your funnel has a hole in it". You've created suspense/tension with the headline and a more effective resolution might be with a physical action by the user, rather than just by reading. It might help to get them commit to the rest of the page. Thanks for putting this out there Nathan, much appreciated.
      - tnorthcutt 14y ago
        I accidentally downvoted you, but didn't mean to. Fat-fingered the button. Sorry :(
MJR 14y ago
The copywriting isn't the product. The article is about copywriting the landing page FOR the product.
- mnicole 14y ago
  This was my confusion.
bpatrianakos 14y ago
Let's be clear here - this is a rip off for you. I understand where you're coming from as someone who has seen people try to sell info-products on things I'm an expert in and know I could get for free however it's easy to forget the kind of mindset someone who would buy this has. In fact, I'd say many of us used to be the ideal customer for this type of product but as we've grown these formerly complex ideas are now almost just common sense to us. This just isn't for you but I can see it having tremendous value. I work as a sole developer in a marketing department where I need to be an expert in web development and marketing. I have a lot of experience with landing pages (I usually create like 3 a day at least) but I'm still interested in the product and here's why: The valuable thing about this is that it's a product that's been thoughtfully organized and crafted by someone with a good reputation that I trust and who has proven to most of us I think that he's definitely credible on the subject. I could find the free stuff if I wanted to but having it all organized, curated, and formatted for me plus the actual product he'll be launching saves me tons of time and effort. I could spend the equivalent of $300 worth of my time to get the information myself or I can send Nathan my $300, save that time, and become an even more effective marketer faster, which then gives me time to not only make back what I spent but turn a profit too. Edit: Grammar.
- thoughtcriminal 14y ago
  Yes, there will be those at a particular time of need that would buy a single apple for 100 dollars because of extreme scarcity. In this case however, there is already an abundance of superior quality ripe fruit in the orchard waiting to be plucked. And it's free.
  - chc 14y ago
    I find your reaction odd. Like, I'm sure Nathan would be willing to refund the money you didn't actually spend to read this article that you found to be such a ripoff that it's equivalent to a $100 apple.
    - nathanbarry 14y ago
      Of course! All my blog posts come with a full money back guarantee for all the money you didn't spend...
sethev 14y ago
Nathan isn't selling anything related to copywriting. His article is about copywriting and it's using the landing page for his new app as an example. The prices you see are for his app (yet to be released) which doesn't have anything to do with copywriting.
ahoyhere 14y ago
What is a rip-off? The free article detailing the writing process?

boothead 14y ago

What part do you feel is a rip off exactly? This tutorial or ConvertKit itself? I believe that the point of ConverKit is to simplify and streamline the process of creating a landing page and drip email campaign. It seems like a pretty good proposition to me! I personally found the step by step process in this little walk though very valuable - especially as I'm writing a sales page myself at the moment.

brador 14y ago

Got links?

thoughtcriminal 14y ago
The Landing Page Makeover Clinic is amazing, and one of the first places I'd start. Also http://copyblogger.com/landing-pages/ http://copyblogger.com/landing-pages/
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digitalengineer 14y ago

You are right, but for a lot of people it doesn't matter if it's available for free somewhere. Right now, right here is his stuff from 'a' to 'z' with examples. Most people just can't find the good stuff and are in a hurry. His article puts a lot of what they're looking for in one place and he put a great deal of effort in to it.

thoughtcriminal 14y ago
And I'm saying a fool and his money are soon parted.
- nathanbarry 14y ago
  This is just a free article on how I (with help) wrote and rewrote a landing page. I'm not selling a course on copywriting. Just sharing my experience.
  - digitalengineer 14y ago
    Your article was a very good read and I liked the design-steps with the reasons why you did what/when. Thank you!
  - vicbrooker 14y ago
    A free article that is about a service that helps to improve conversion rates by making it easier to provide free articles. Which finishes with a call to action to convert the reader to the service = mind blown/Startup Inception. I personally think seeing the iterations and tweaks was fantastic. Seeing both the process in both text and visuals was where the gold was for me. The only thing I was thinking when I saw the final/current design was that it would sense to me for the reader to scroll (slightly) to be able read "Your funnel has a hole in it". You've created suspense/tension with the headline and a more effective resolution might be with a physical action by the user, rather than just by reading. It might help to get them commit to the rest of the page. Thanks for putting this out there Nathan, much appreciated.
    - tnorthcutt 14y ago
      I accidentally downvoted you, but didn't mean to. Fat-fingered the button. Sorry :(

MJR 14y ago

The copywriting isn't the product. The article is about copywriting the landing page FOR the product.

mnicole 14y ago
This was my confusion.

bpatrianakos 14y ago

Let's be clear here - this is a rip off for you. I understand where you're coming from as someone who has seen people try to sell info-products on things I'm an expert in and know I could get for free however it's easy to forget the kind of mindset someone who would buy this has. In fact, I'd say many of us used to be the ideal customer for this type of product but as we've grown these formerly complex ideas are now almost just common sense to us. This just isn't for you but I can see it having tremendous value. I work as a sole developer in a marketing department where I need to be an expert in web development and marketing. I have a lot of experience with landing pages (I usually create like 3 a day at least) but I'm still interested in the product and here's why: The valuable thing about this is that it's a product that's been thoughtfully organized and crafted by someone with a good reputation that I trust and who has proven to most of us I think that he's definitely credible on the subject. I could find the free stuff if I wanted to but having it all organized, curated, and formatted for me plus the actual product he'll be launching saves me tons of time and effort. I could spend the equivalent of $300 worth of my time to get the information myself or I can send Nathan my $300, save that time, and become an even more effective marketer faster, which then gives me time to not only make back what I spent but turn a profit too. Edit: Grammar.

thoughtcriminal 14y ago
Yes, there will be those at a particular time of need that would buy a single apple for 100 dollars because of extreme scarcity. In this case however, there is already an abundance of superior quality ripe fruit in the orchard waiting to be plucked. And it's free.
- chc 14y ago
  I find your reaction odd. Like, I'm sure Nathan would be willing to refund the money you didn't actually spend to read this article that you found to be such a ripoff that it's equivalent to a $100 apple.
  - nathanbarry 14y ago
    Of course! All my blog posts come with a full money back guarantee for all the money you didn't spend...

sethev 14y ago

Nathan isn't selling anything related to copywriting. His article is about copywriting and it's using the landing page for his new app as an example. The prices you see are for his app (yet to be released) which doesn't have anything to do with copywriting.

ahoyhere 14y ago

What is a rip-off? The free article detailing the writing process?