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btw, there is a mood, like so-called flow, when you just do it, just as best as you can, without even worrying of anything. It is like surfing - you just keepin
by dschiptsov 14y ago
btw, there is a mood, like so-called flow, when you just do it, just as best as you can, without even worrying of anything. It is like surfing - you just keeping your balance and going with a wave.
Being overwhelmed is a side-effect of fears, doubts and ignorance - what they call insecurity. As long as one tames them, uninterfered awareness is what remains.
It is like a performance of professional musician or painter - you just do it out of habit.
Just doing with relaxed mind is also called Zen.)
- ma2rten 14y agoThat is not Zen. Zen is a state of meditative absorption, that is incomparable to any wordily happiness. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhy%C4%81na_in_Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhy%C4%81na_in_Buddhism
- dschiptsov 14y agoWell, it is the way to that ultimate state, and this intermediate state is very useful. btw, it is not about words or terminology, it is about what those words supposed to refer to.) edit: lets make it clear. Buddha taught the cause of suffering (four noble truths) and the way out (eight-fold path) which could be considered as an ultimate CBT.) It is very important that Buddha taught the way, not the goal. He just claimed that he have reached the that ultimate state. Zen as a teaching is based on Buddha's (which in turn were based on Upanishads and his own personal insights, obtained through deliberate practice). So, Zen is also teaching of the way, not of the goal. It is even debatable if the goal is reachable by ordinary person, but it is obvious, at least for educated people, that the way is the right one. There are countless examples in all imaginable cultures. Famous "Know thyself, conquer thyself" is the same idea.
- danieldk 14y agoEquanimity is one of the effects of Zen practice and also has an effect on daily life. Wordily life - mental life is a false dichotomy: both are impermanent and inseparable. Is pain in a finger something of matter or something of mind?
- ma2rten 14y agoWhat is actually wanted to say is this: Zen is a blissful state that can be reached during meditation, which is said to feel like a 30 minute orgasm. Thus it is not the same as flow. I just wanted to point that out, because people seem to be using the word Zen quite liberally for everything that is related to being in the present moment. This might lead to misconceptions.
- locopati 14y ago"a blissful state that can be reached during meditation, which is said to feel like a 30 minute orgasm. Thus it is not the same as flow." Nor is that the same as Zen