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Felons, even if they are looked down upon by a great part of society, still enjoy many protections. Illegal immigrants ... not so much. Any job an illegal imm

Felons, even if they are looked down upon by a great part of society, still enjoy many protections. Illegal immigrants ... not so much. Any job an illegal immigrant can get, a felon can as well. If you're a felon, guess what? You fucked up. Time to cowboy up and start from the bottom.

Anechoic 14y ago
Any job an illegal immigrant can get, a felon can as well. Yes, and they frequently do, and frequently experience the same abuses that undocumented workers do.
jtreminio 14y ago
Anechoic, I can't reply directly, but that goes back to my original question. > If you are a male between the ages of 14 and 17 who is convicted of a violent felony, your chances of getting re-arrested are better than 80% Why is this true of felons, but 80% of illegal immigrants don't commit felonies?
- Anechoic 14y ago
  Why is this true of felons, but 80% of illegal immigrants don't commit felonies? I wonder if perhaps the added deterrence of getting kicked out of the country has an effect at reducing felonies among undocumented immigrants. Also, immigrants in general tend to be, as a group, more determined to better themselves than most which is why they're here in the first place. Plus you have things like parole restrictions that limit where a felon can go, move, visit and work.
jhaglund 14y ago
> Any job an illegal immigrant can get, a felon can as well. Do you have any idea how difficult it is for undocumented workers? There is no upward mobility in their jobs. They either get documented, get exploited, or go home. Why should a person who served their 20 years again be pushed to a level where they are exploited, (unpaid wages, unsafe work environments) as undocumented workers often are? This will perpetuate more societal problems than assisting individuals with their recovery.

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Felons, even if they are looked down upon by a great part of society, still enjoy many protections. Illegal immigrants ... not so much. Any job an illegal imm

by jtreminio 14y ago

Anechoic 14y ago
Any job an illegal immigrant can get, a felon can as well. Yes, and they frequently do, and frequently experience the same abuses that undocumented workers do.
jtreminio 14y ago
Anechoic, I can't reply directly, but that goes back to my original question. > If you are a male between the ages of 14 and 17 who is convicted of a violent felony, your chances of getting re-arrested are better than 80% Why is this true of felons, but 80% of illegal immigrants don't commit felonies?
- Anechoic 14y ago
  Why is this true of felons, but 80% of illegal immigrants don't commit felonies? I wonder if perhaps the added deterrence of getting kicked out of the country has an effect at reducing felonies among undocumented immigrants. Also, immigrants in general tend to be, as a group, more determined to better themselves than most which is why they're here in the first place. Plus you have things like parole restrictions that limit where a felon can go, move, visit and work.
jhaglund 14y ago
> Any job an illegal immigrant can get, a felon can as well. Do you have any idea how difficult it is for undocumented workers? There is no upward mobility in their jobs. They either get documented, get exploited, or go home. Why should a person who served their 20 years again be pushed to a level where they are exploited, (unpaid wages, unsafe work environments) as undocumented workers often are? This will perpetuate more societal problems than assisting individuals with their recovery.