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A culture crash may have contributed to that so many are leaving. According to the Opera CEO, iOS and Android are the future for Opera now[0]. One could argue

by runarb 14y ago

A culture crash may have contributed to that so many are leaving. According to the Opera CEO, iOS and Android are the future for Opera now[0]. One could argue that Opera now are in more need of 25 years old iOS developers, that 40+ C++ specialists. 0: http://translate.google.no/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digi.no%2F911808%2Fbittersott-og-nytt-i-opera http://translate.google.no/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=...

avar 14y ago
> One could argue that Opera now are in > more need of 25 years old iOS developers, > that 40+ C++ specialists. One could, but would one not be assuming that their 20+ years of experience wouldn't more than make up for whatever platform-specific skills they'd need to train on which could surely be picked up in less than a year?
- rplnt 14y ago
  Assuming they want to use their skills that way.
  - dagw 14y ago
    Indeed. At least from the article it sounds like everybody was given the option to move to other projects, mainly client side mobile and desktop development, but a significant portion of the engineers turned down the offer.
- dottedmag 14y ago
  It would make up, but it would also come with a hefty price tag.
gcp 14y ago
One could argue that Opera now are in more need of 25 years old iOS developers, that 40+ C++ specialists. To do what, make more Angry Birds clones? Engineers that spent 15 years working on every possible mobile device aren't suddenly magically unable to start working on a new one.
- blaabjerg 14y ago
  Engineers that spent many years working on challenging problems in highly performance-critical areas of the core engine might not be all that interested in doing UI design on iOS.
  - gcp 14y ago
    I guess this depends on whether there will be more to Opera than a Chrome skin. Sigh.
    - blowski 14y ago
      Webkit ≠ Chrome. I think it's important that web developers do all they can to stop that idea becoming widespread, before people think all other browsers are just a knocked off version of Chrome.
      - pcwalton 14y ago
        Opera is basing its new browser on Chromium specifically, not just WebKit.
      - gcp 14y ago
        ...which is why I used the term "it depends". If they knock off Chrome, they don't need back-end C++ programmers. If they don't, they'll need them where they want to technically innovate. But apparently, it really will be a Chrome knockoff now.
MatthewPhillips 14y ago
This comes across as incredibly ageist. Why do the iOS developers have to be 25?
- addlepate 14y ago
  I think that was the point...

by runarb 14y ago

avar 14y ago

> One could argue that Opera now are in > more need of 25 years old iOS developers, > that 40+ C++ specialists. One could, but would one not be assuming that their 20+ years of experience wouldn't more than make up for whatever platform-specific skills they'd need to train on which could surely be picked up in less than a year?

rplnt 14y ago
Assuming they want to use their skills that way.
- dagw 14y ago
  Indeed. At least from the article it sounds like everybody was given the option to move to other projects, mainly client side mobile and desktop development, but a significant portion of the engineers turned down the offer.
dottedmag 14y ago
It would make up, but it would also come with a hefty price tag.

gcp 14y ago

One could argue that Opera now are in more need of 25 years old iOS developers, that 40+ C++ specialists. To do what, make more Angry Birds clones? Engineers that spent 15 years working on every possible mobile device aren't suddenly magically unable to start working on a new one.

blaabjerg 14y ago
Engineers that spent many years working on challenging problems in highly performance-critical areas of the core engine might not be all that interested in doing UI design on iOS.
- gcp 14y ago
  I guess this depends on whether there will be more to Opera than a Chrome skin. Sigh.
  - blowski 14y ago
    Webkit ≠ Chrome. I think it's important that web developers do all they can to stop that idea becoming widespread, before people think all other browsers are just a knocked off version of Chrome.
    - pcwalton 14y ago
      Opera is basing its new browser on Chromium specifically, not just WebKit.
    - gcp 14y ago
      ...which is why I used the term "it depends". If they knock off Chrome, they don't need back-end C++ programmers. If they don't, they'll need them where they want to technically innovate. But apparently, it really will be a Chrome knockoff now.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago

This comes across as incredibly ageist. Why do the iOS developers have to be 25?

addlepate 14y ago
I think that was the point...