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This thing is just as useless now as it was when it launched and was first featured here, one year ago (1). If you want to learn Vim's basics, just run the foll

This thing is just as useless now as it was when it launched and was first featured here, one year ago (1). If you want to learn Vim's basics, just run the following command in your terminal as many times as needed to feel comfortable and force yourself to use Vim for gradually more complex and critical tasks: $ vimtutor (1) http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3043866 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3043866

muyuu 14y ago
Does that work on Windows? (honest question, cannot try since I don't have any Windows machine handy). If not, then it's not useless.
- achal 14y ago
  Yes, it does (except you have to look for it in %programfiles(x86)%, and then it opens in a graphical window that doesn't take your .vimrc/.gvimrc into account)
  - wfn 14y ago
    (It seems that vimtutor on Linux also doesn't take your .vimrc into account; I think that's by design?)
    - johncoltrane 14y ago
      I can't speak for its author(s) but the point of vimtutor is to help you learn Vim's basics in order to be up and running as quickly as possible. From that point of view, it's quite normal to go without special settings and plugins as that would taint the whole experience and learning. Vimtutor is a standardized tool and it would probably loose a lot if it was different for everybody. By the way, going config-less for two or three days can be an eye opening adventure if you are too infatuated with your config. Also, what would be the point of running vimtutor if you already have a ~/.vimrc? You probably already know everything it has to offer.
      - wfn 14y ago
        Yes, that's what I was thinking exactly. And a good idea re: trying to work for a bit without a .vimrc (or maybe re-adding basic shortcuts later on and ending up with a very minimalist vimrc).
        johncoltrane 14y ago
        I have a 15 or so lines long .vimrc that I put on all the VPSes I work on without any plugin. It's great for keeping myself sharp.

muyuu 14y ago

Does that work on Windows? (honest question, cannot try since I don't have any Windows machine handy). If not, then it's not useless.

achal 14y ago
Yes, it does (except you have to look for it in %programfiles(x86)%, and then it opens in a graphical window that doesn't take your .vimrc/.gvimrc into account)
- wfn 14y ago
  (It seems that vimtutor on Linux also doesn't take your .vimrc into account; I think that's by design?)
  - johncoltrane 14y ago
    I can't speak for its author(s) but the point of vimtutor is to help you learn Vim's basics in order to be up and running as quickly as possible. From that point of view, it's quite normal to go without special settings and plugins as that would taint the whole experience and learning. Vimtutor is a standardized tool and it would probably loose a lot if it was different for everybody. By the way, going config-less for two or three days can be an eye opening adventure if you are too infatuated with your config. Also, what would be the point of running vimtutor if you already have a ~/.vimrc? You probably already know everything it has to offer.
    - wfn 14y ago
      Yes, that's what I was thinking exactly. And a good idea re: trying to work for a bit without a .vimrc (or maybe re-adding basic shortcuts later on and ending up with a very minimalist vimrc).
      - johncoltrane 14y ago
        I have a 15 or so lines long .vimrc that I put on all the VPSes I work on without any plugin. It's great for keeping myself sharp.