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Benchmark to entry and then constraints. Like level one of a libreoffice effort would be to organize all the buttons on all the dialogs and make sure they are

Benchmark to entry and then constraints. Like level one of a libreoffice effort would be to organize all the buttons on all the dialogs and make sure they are consistent, or something like that. There are probably a couple hundred standard ones, it's not sexy. It is some work though. A level 10 would be doing something like reinventing the ribbon from office, which might be more of a gtk+ task than a libreoffice task, and the libreoffice guys might not even think that's in their domain or their problem. I think that could be a justifiable position too. You have to actually collaborate a lot with the team just to find all of the work for both of these. Ux guys don't seem to be dedicated enough to those projects. And fwiw, the projects themselves might not be open to spending energy "reskinning" especially when libreoffice has so much other technical debt.

keithpeter 14y ago
"A level 10 would be doing something like reinventing the ribbon from office, which might be more of a gtk+ task than a libreoffice task, and the libreoffice guys might not even think that's in their domain or their problem." I think 'reinventing the ribbon from office' is exactly what I don't want as a daily user of Libreoffice/OpenOffice. Surely we can have a competition to find a new paradigm for an office UI? Ubuntu searchable menus (HUD) coupled with execution of the command from the search results would be something I'd be interested in.
- DeepDuh 14y ago
  >Ubuntu searchable menus (HUD) coupled with execution of the command from the search results would be something I'd be interested in. You mean like the OSX help system? Yes, feature discoverability is the main issue I have with Office ribbons. For this reason alone it's IMO not well thought through. iWorks still has the best / most consistant UI, if only its features weren't so lacking. I'd much rather have LibreOffice copy these concepts, such as the info window, table insert hotkeys and spreadsheets with multiple tables per sheet.
- takluyver 14y ago
  > Ubuntu searchable menus (HUD) coupled with execution of the command from the search results would be something I'd be interested in. Is that something beyond what Ubuntu already has? Just hit enter or click on the result and it executes.

keithpeter 14y ago

"A level 10 would be doing something like reinventing the ribbon from office, which might be more of a gtk+ task than a libreoffice task, and the libreoffice guys might not even think that's in their domain or their problem." I think 'reinventing the ribbon from office' is exactly what I don't want as a daily user of Libreoffice/OpenOffice. Surely we can have a competition to find a new paradigm for an office UI? Ubuntu searchable menus (HUD) coupled with execution of the command from the search results would be something I'd be interested in.

DeepDuh 14y ago
>Ubuntu searchable menus (HUD) coupled with execution of the command from the search results would be something I'd be interested in. You mean like the OSX help system? Yes, feature discoverability is the main issue I have with Office ribbons. For this reason alone it's IMO not well thought through. iWorks still has the best / most consistant UI, if only its features weren't so lacking. I'd much rather have LibreOffice copy these concepts, such as the info window, table insert hotkeys and spreadsheets with multiple tables per sheet.
takluyver 14y ago
> Ubuntu searchable menus (HUD) coupled with execution of the command from the search results would be something I'd be interested in. Is that something beyond what Ubuntu already has? Just hit enter or click on the result and it executes.